Jesus begotten Son of God #13 Pre-existence excluding virginal birth of the Only One Transposed

The Anointed begotten Son of God

29. The only one

Though Jesus came into life by becoming into the womb, and getting onto the world by getting out of the womb of the human being Miryam/Mary he was implanted in her in a special way. You could compare it with fertilisation by insemination by the Holy Spirit.

Hans Pleydenwurff Mary and Joseph
Mary and Joseph – 1462 Hans Pleydenwurff (1420–1472)
When there took place a fertilisation there would have been a conception, fecundation or syngamy. As fertilisation is the fusion of gametes to produce a new organism in Marya new organism was created by the Holy Spirit.

Because by Mary there was no process involving the fusion of an ovum with a sperm, which eventually leads to the development of an embryo it was an exceptional conceivement. For Mary it was her first child. Afterwards she got some other kids from a normal contact with her then husband Joseph with whom she according one of the Laws of God reproduced.

Conception’ is used by some to refer to implantation and is thus a subject of semantic arguments about the beginning of pregnancy, typically in the context of the abortion debate. With Mary there was a conception, an implantation by the Holy Spirit or “by the Working of God”, a conceivement

Remarkably there is the confirmation of the virginal begetting in John 1:13, if we read the Jerusalem Bible and translations like Albrecht’s German rendering of the Greek in 1920. The issue is the singular aorist verb here (egenneethee).

“not because of bloodline, physical impulse or human intention, but because of god.” (John 1:13 CJB)

„13 Nicht aus Geblüt der Menschen, auch nicht aus Fleischestrieb und Manneswillen, vielmehr durch Gottes Wirksamkeit ward er gezeugt.*n13.1  „ (John 1:13 Albr)

If that text is original, then it is the singular Son of God who “was begotten, not of the will of the flesh or male desire, but of God.” It is surely rather labored and strange to contrast our “rebirth” with the birth by male desire, flesh, etc. Much more natural is an easy reference to the virginal begetting of Jesus. He is then the uniquely begotten Son (monogenes) precisely because that is what he really was, uniquely brought into existence as Son.

“no one has ever seen god; but the only and unique son, who is identical with god and is at the father’s side—he has made him known.” (John 1:18 CJB)

If the conceived one in Mary is Jeshua or Jesus, he is the uniquely begotten one who could be identical with “God” because he was partly from God and partly from a human being, Mary. Being implanted by God he would be a very special person and between the many gods of the world he could receive a special position as a “god”, but that is not the same as being God, making two Gods. Being created in a special way Jesus became the highest form of created being, as Hort noted in his long dissertation on that verse.

By the Word of God, God His son as the only brought-forth Son, is to be made known to the world.

“No one has seen God at any time. The only-begotten [or, unique] Son, the One in the bosom of the Father, that One explained [Him] [or, made [Him] known]. “ (John 1:18 ALT)

30. Pre-existence and virginal birth exclude each other

OrkneyItalianChapel
Virgin Mary and infant Jesus on wall and dove of Holy Spirit and pagan symbols of the four Evangelists on ceiling – Italian Chapel, Lamb Holm, Orkney, Scotland

It was Harnack who observed that “pre-existence and virginal birth self-evidently exclude each other” (schliessen sich aus).

There is more. In the LXX of Psalm 110:3 we read the same “Today I have begotten you,” in the ruling Messianic psalm which controls the thinking of the New Testament. Psalm 110:1 is quoted massively more than any other verse from the Hebrew Bible.

יהוה said to my Master, “Sit at My right hand, Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet.” יהוה sends Your mighty sceptre out of Tsiyon. Rule in the midst of Your enemies! Your people volunteer in the day of Your might, In the splendours of set-apartness! From the womb, from the morning, You have the dew of Your youth! יהוה has sworn and does not relent, “You are a priest forever According to the order of Malkitseḏeq.” יהוה at Your right hand Shall smite sovereigns in the day of His wrath. “ (Psalms 110:1-5 The Scriptures 1998+)

“Jehovah will {1} send forth the {2} rod of thy strength out of Zion: Rule thou in the midst of thine enemies. {1) Or [stretch] 2) Or [sceptre]} Thy people {1} offer themselves willingly In the day of thy {2} power, {3} in holy array: Out of the womb of the morning {4} Thou hast the dew of thy youth. {1) Heb [are freewill-offerings] 2) Or [army] 3) Or [in the beauty of holiness] 4) Or [Thy youth are to thee] as [the dew]}” (Psalms 110:2-3 ASV)

It is out of the womb that the sending of the promised one shall come.

The rod of David’s strength shall be send out of Zion and “more than the womb of the morning”[1] Messiah shall come to sit at YHVH the Only One God Jehovah’s right hand until his enemies are subjected to him.

That Son of God is the one begotten by the Father in the LXX of verse 3. Though the Masoretic text has repointed the Hebrew to read “your youth” (yaldutecha) many Hebrew manuscripts and the Hebrew version read by Origen read “I have begotten you” (yeliditicha), exactly as in Psalm 2:7 “I have begotten you.” (All this is just like substituting “shipping” for “shopping” “skyping” for “scoping.”)

““I inscribe for a law: יהוה has said to Me, ‘You are My Son, Today I have brought You forth. “ (Psalms 2:7 The Scriptures 1998+)

Psalm 2:7 indicating that the person is “brought forth” or “birthed”[2] is clearly key as is 2 Samuel 7:14, not to mention Isaiah 7:14: “To us [in Israel] has been born or begotten a Son.”

“I will declare shall scribe the decree statute : the LORD Yah Veh hath said unto me,  Thou art my Son Ben * ; this day have I begotten birthed thee.  {*Ben: cp 2:12 } (Psalms 2:7 ERRB)

“I will shall be his for him, father,  and he shall be my for me, son.  If he commit iniquity pervert ,  I will chasten shall reprove him  with the rod scion of men,  and with the stripes plagues  of the children sons of men humanity : “ (2 Samuel 7:14 ERRB)

“Therefore the Lord Adonay himself  shall give you a sign;  Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear birth a son,  and shall call his name Immanuel Immanu El . “ (Isaiah 7:14 ERRB)

And in Hebrews 7:14 we know that our Lord is “descended from Judah.”

“For it is evident hath been preevidenced  that our Lord sprang Adonay rose out of Juda Yah Hudah ;  of unto which tribe scion  Moses Mosheh spake nothing naught concerning priesthood.  {Genesis 49:8, 10  } “ (Hebrews 7:14 ERRB)

In three groups of 14’s Matthew (ch. 1) lays out the complete family history of the Son of God, who later as “ideal Israel” is called out of Egypt (2:15). Jesus then gives us, as the ideal Moses, the five blocks of New Covenant teaching, each ending with the “chorus” “when Jesus had finished all these words.”

How could anyone imagine “God the Son” being the promised “prophet arising as one like Moses and from the family of Israel” (Deut. 18:15-18)? Israel had asked not to hear God speak directly to them, and God conceded. How bizarre if then a “GOD the Son” spoke to them having abandoned a life of eternity in heaven to walk on earth with an “impersonal human nature.”

32. Transposed into Eternity

Marie of the Incarnation
Mary or Marie of the Incarnation – 16th century
In case God incarnated in the foetus of Mary it was somebody who was and has always been who came out of Mary. This would mean that that Jesus was also eternal, in case he did not die. God can not die, being a spirit, so that comes in conflict with lots of Christian dogmatic teaching. Muslims on the other hand do not accept such an incarnation, accept Jesus as a prophetbut not as a son of God, and denied that he died. So for them Jesus had a beginning but no end.

Normally in English “to die” means to become deceased or coming in a state of no longer living; being dead. The traditional believe is also that you can only die once and then you shall departure from life and be a dead person.

When a person is dead he or she will not endowed any more with life; and would be inanimate.

In case Jesus died on the cross he would have been dead: deceased, extinct, lifeless, and therefore would not have or appear to have life. Though we know that God cannot die, so when he was in Jesus when did he get out of in and who let He die? Did suddenly change the body of the God into a body of a poor man? According the Muslims the person Jeshua was interchanged for somebody else. But in the Bible this is no where recorded.

Jesus did not fake his death on the wooden stake and really came to an end, so was not eternal.

The birth date as well as the begetting of the Son of God ought never to have been transposed out of history and time into the philosophical, misty “times” of eternity.

The notion of an “eternal begetting” by which, as one church father said, the Son “had a beginningless beginning” ought to have been silenced, and Scripture allowed to speak to us all.
One architect of the Trinity admitted that the Trinity is a compromise between Jewish monotheism and pagan polytheism (Gregory of Nyssa), combining the best of two worlds! This leads people to read Philippians 2 as if Paul was on board with the Trinity of which he had never heard. Jesus was not “in very nature God” (NIV) but “in the form of God,” as God’s visible image, his glory, as the unique Son. The Son’s glory or appearance, visible, was the reflection of the One God, his Father, the God of Israel, God of gods and of the creation. As that matchless human Son, Jesus did not exploit his amazing status but worked for our good, resisting the Devil and performing perfectly as a servant leader.

That is why he has been elevated to the position of ADONI, my lord (Ps. 110:1; adoni is in all 195 occurrences a non-Deity title), at the right hand of YHVH, the One God. If Jesus were GOD in the first place then his achievement and elevation is really a charade. It is what God has done and can do with a fully dedicated human being that should make us catch our breath.


[1] “Thy people [shall be] willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth. {from…: or, more than the womb of the morning: thou shalt have, etc}” (Psalms 110:3 AVRLE)

[2] I scribe the statute!  Yah Veh says to me,  You are my Son/Ben*; this day I birthed you.  {*Ben; cp 2:12 } “ (Psalms 2:7 ECB)

Note: Many Christians believe Jesus was incarnated by the the act of grace whereby Christ took our human nature into union with his Divine Person and became man, supposed to God becoming God Man.  Those Christians believe Christ is both God and man but can not explain how it was possible that the people who saw Christ Jesus did not die when they saw him, because everybody who sees God dies (Exodus 33:20).

And  יהוה said to Mosheh, “Even this word you have spoken I shall do, for you have found favour in My eyes, and I know you by name.” Then he said, “Please, show me Your esteem.” And He said, “I shall cause all My goodness to pass before you, and I shall proclaim the Name of  יהוה before you. And I shall favour him whom I favour, and shall have compassion on him whom I have compassion.” But He said, “You are unable to see My face, for no man does see Me and live.” And  יהוה said, “See, there is a place with Me! And you shall stand on the rock. “And it shall be, while My esteem passes by, that I shall put you in the cleft of the rock and cover you with My hand while I pass by. “Then I shall take away My hand and you shall see My back, but My face shall not be seen.”
(Exodus 33:17-23 The Scriptures 1998+)

According to the Trinitarians they take Jesus as ‘the divine God’ which is not exactly the same as ‘a divine person’ united to a human nature (Acts 20:28; Rom. 8:32; 1 Cor. 2:8; Hebrews 2:11-14; 1 Tim. 3:16; Gal. 4:4, etc.).

About the divinity Allon Maxwell says in Good-News Jesus among the partisans:” Of course mainstream theology attributes the sinless obedience of Jesus to the superior moral attributes of his alleged “divinity”. But think about it. That amounts to a serious a slander against the justice of God! What justice would there be in a God who condemned humans who were born unable to obey because of their lack of divinity? How could one ever truly love a God like that?”

We are not divine, but we can strive to get more divine. Daily we can work on our character to become a better person.

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Preceding article: Jesus begotten Son of God #12 Son of God

To be continued: 33. Mediator + 34. Preeminent Son + 35. The beloved son

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Read also:

  1. Around pre-existence of Christ
  2. Preexistence in the Divine purpose and Trinity
  3. Pre-existence of Christ #1 Look #2 Jesus in the Old Testament
  4. Pre-existence of Christ #1 Intro #4 Jesus – His Parents #2 Difference
  5. Can God become flesh? Kan God vlees worden?
  6. “Son of God” – “God the Son”
  7. Jesus was the son of “The Father” in the fullest sense as he said on numerous occasions. + We are not divine, but we can strive to get more divine. Daily we can work on our character to become a better person. > Good-News Jesus among the partisans
  8. Who is Jesus Christ? #1 What does the Bible say
  9. Dying or not
  10. Immortality, eternality – onsterfelijkheid, eeuwigheid
  11. Christian thought: acknowledge that Jesus is the Son of God

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  1. Colossians 1:15-20: Preexistence or Preeminence? by William Wachtel
  2. The Nature of Preexistence in the New Testament  or Preexistensens natur i Nya testamentet (Swedish)
  3. Who Is Jesus? God, or Unique Man? or Wie is Jesus? God, of Unieke Mens? (Afrikaans)

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In Dutch:

  1. voorbestaan-jezus
  2. 18 Redenen dat Jezus niet God is.
  3. Redenen dat Jezus niet God is
  4. Afstraling van Gods heerlijkheid
  5. Hij die zit aan de rechterhand van Zijn Vader
  6. Zoon van God
  7. Hij die gezonden is naar de aarde
  8. Jezus Christus is in het vlees gekomen
  9. Christus Jezus: de zoon van God
  10. Jezus van Nazareth #1 Jezus Geboorte
  11. Jezus van Nazareth #2 De zoon van Maria
  12. Jezus van Nazareth #3 De Zoon van God
  13. Niet goddelijkheid van Christus toch
  14. Hij is de Zoon van God
  15. Onsterfelijkheid

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  • Jesus begotten Son of God #6 Anointed Son of God, Adam and Abraham (christadelphians.wordpress.com)
    There are many references in the Old Testament to Jesus in the types and in the prophecies of the messiah.
  • Jesus begotten Son of God #7 A matter of the Future (christadelphians.wordpress.com)
    Several prophesies were given in the Old Testament. A prophesy is something which is still going to happen. It does not about something what had happened in the past.
  • Jesus begotten Son of God #9 Two millennia ago conceived or begotten (christadelphians.wordpress.com)
    According to Chambers dictionary ‘to conceive’ is to receive into or form in the womb: to form in the mind: to imagine or think: to understand: to grasp as a concept to express: to become pregnant.
  • Jesus begotten Son of God #8 Found Divinely Created not Incarnated (christadelphians.wordpress.com)
    The Son of God of Gabriel’s announcement is none other than a divinely created Son of God, coming into existence — begotten — as Son in his mother’s womb. All other claimants to divine Sonship and Messiahship may safely be discounted.
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    God has not implanted himself in a human being. Perhaps you could say He did bring over a spark of this spirit, or immortal divinity, in a foetus through its mother. As God had created the first man he now could bring in to the woman Many elements which would bring into live a new human being, a second Adam, created as a fleshly likeness of his Creator, who is a spirit being, but that still would not make that Adam the same as its Creator. Nor would be any conceived child the same as his or her father or mother.
  • Jesus begotten Son of God #10 Coming down spirit or flesh seed of Eve (christadelphians.wordpress.com)
    Pre-human of course implies, if you think about it, non-human. And the whole point of the Messiah, Son of God, is that he is and must be a man, “the man mediator” of the lucidly clear statement of Paul in 1 Timothy 2:5: “There is one God, and one mediator between God and man, the man Messiah Jesus,” the second Adam.
  • Jesus begotten Son of God #11 Existence and Genesis Raising up (christadelphians.wordpress.com)
    Jesus is thus son of Eve, of Abraham, of David, of Mary and at the same time of God. As Adam was also the Son of God by divine miracle and creation (Luke 3:38), so is Jesus Son of God. “God the Son” is out of the question at once, since the only and mortal Son of God, Messiah, was “brought into existence” some 2000 years ago, at a definite and predicted geographical location.
  • On the Nature of Christ (christadelphians.wordpress.com)
    The testimonies which teach the indivisible unity of the Deity, as the One Father, out of whom ALL things have proceeded, and who is supreme above all, even above Christ (I Cor. 11:3), are inconsistent with the Trinitarian representation of God. The supremacy and unity of the Father would not be affirmable if there were three co-equal personalities in His One personality—a doctrine which presents us with a contradiction in terms as well as in sense.
  • The Seed Of The Woman Bruised (christadelphians.wordpress.com)
    Jesus, who was the only begotten of the Father full of grace and truth” (John 1:14), received strength that enabled him to render sinless obedience to the requirements of his Father, and manifest a character which reflected the Divine image (1 Peter2:21–24).This was necessary for the work of redemption, so that it is not solely the work of Christ, but that of the Father and the Son acting in conjunction one with the other. The Bible teaches: “God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself” (2 Cor. 5:19). Jesus leaned heavily upon the Father, and God strengthened him, with the result that the fullness of the Divine character was revealed in a human body, that inherited the consequences of the first sin.
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