Jesus begotten Son of God #8 Found Divinely Created not Incarnated

The Anointed begotten Son of God

17. To be found

In case people would read their scrolls handed over by their forefathers they could learn from the Torah and the Prophets who God was and what He was going to provide and even which signs could be noticed to know that the time had arrived.

Several people claimed to be the saviour, and in history there have been many who had been called Jeshua or Iessou or Jesus, even today we do find people called Jesus or Chésu.

When the angel appeared before the virgin Miryam/Miriam, she Mary/Maria had a very reasonable objection that she was as yet unmarried and therefore would not have had intercourse. Gabriel declared, “holy spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you, and for that reason indeed (dio kai) the holy child to be begotten will be called Son of God” (Luke 1:35). As the angels says it was a son of God who would become begotten, it is to say would become in existence or would be born.

L' Annonciation, 1644, peinture de Philippe de...

“In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin’s name was Mary. The angel went to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favoured! The Lord is with you.” Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. But the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, you have found favour with God. You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over the house of Jacob for ever; his kingdom will never end.” “How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?” The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called {Or So the child to be born will be called holy,} the Son of God.” (Luke 1:26-35 NIV)

18. Divinely created

The Son of God of Gabriel’s announcement is none other than a divinely created Son of God, coming into existence — begotten — as Son in his mother’s womb. All other claimants to divine Sonship and Messiahship may safely be discounted. A “Son of God” who is the natural son of Joseph could not, on the evidence of Gabriel, be the Messiah. Such a person would not answer to the Son who is son on the basis of a unique divine intervention in the biological chain. Equally false to Gabriel’s definition of the Son of God would be a son who pre-existed his conception. Such a son could not possibly correspond to the Messiah presented by Gabriel, one whose existence is predicated on a creative act in history on the part of the Father. And it was Gods spirit who took care that Mary was conceived. It was an action in that time.

Gabriel does not present a Son of God in transition from one state of existence to another. He announces the miraculous origin and beginning of the Messiah. Mary became with a child from the Spirit. The apostle Matthew lets us know that the child of whom he is writing got its “origin” [Gk. genesis] from the special force the Holy Spirit or Ruach haKodesh. So Jesus Christ, the Son of the Most High God came from Mary found to be pregnant or found to be with child from the Ruach haKodesh.

“here is how the birth of Yeshua the Messiah took place. when his mother Miryam was engaged to Yosef, before they were married, she was found to be pregnant from the \@Ruach haKodesh\@.” (Matthew 1:18 CJB)

“but while he was thinking about this, an angel of \@ADONAI\@ appeared to him in a dream and said, “Yosef, son of David, do not be afraid to take Miryam home with you as your wife; for what has been conceived in her is from the \@Ruach haKodesh\@.” (Matthew 1:20 CJB)

Mary her conception, by a singular grace and privilege granted by Almighty God, does not mean that she therefore would have been without sin. She was chosen By God, probably because she was very clean and a real worshipper of God. But that does not mean that she always has been free from original sin and from the start filled with the sanctifying grace. Miryam or Mary/Maria got a virginal conception and became a mother to Jesus but not as she herself who was the daughter of a human father and mother, traditionally known by the names of Saint Joachim and Saint Anne in Roman Catholicism, Jesus coming directly from the Father, the Most High in heaven.

19. No Incarnation

The later concept of the Incarnation of a pre-existingeternal Son” cannot possibly be forced into the mould revealed by Gabriel. A pre-existent Person who decides to become a man reduces himself, shrinks himself, in order to adopt the form of a human embryo. But such a Person is not conceived or begotten in the womb of a woman. He merely passes through that womb, adopting a new form of existence.

Some think God is a being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions, but the Bible is clearly saying that God is a Spirit and not a human being. And a spirit has no flesh and bones, while Jesus for example has such flesh and bones.

“saying, “The Master was truly raised, and has appeared to Shim’on!” And they related what took place on the way, and how He was recognised by them in the breaking of the bread. And as they were saying this, יהושע Himself stood in the midst of them, and said to them, “Peace to you.” And being startled and frightened, they thought they had seen a spirit. And He said to them, “Why are you troubled? And why do doubts arise in your hearts? “See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself. Handle Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have.” And saying this, He showed them His hands and His feet.” (Luke 24:34-40 The Scriptures 1998+)

““But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father also does seek such to worship Him. “Elohim is Spirit, and those who worship Him need to worship in spirit and truth.” “ (John 4:23-24 The Scriptures 1998+)

God is a Spirit – Not only remote from the body, and all the properties of it, invisible to men, but likewise full of all spiritual perfections, mighty, powerful, and influential, having all the wisdom, love, and holiness.

God has not implanted himself in a human being. Perhaps you could say He did bring over a spark of this spirit, or immortal divinity, in a foetus through its mother. As God had created the first man he now could bring in to the woman Many elements which would bring into live a new human being, a second Adam, created as a fleshly likeness of his Creator, who is a spirit being, but that still would not make that Adam the same as its Creator. Nor would be any conceived child the same as his or her father or mother.

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Preceding article: Jesus begotten Son of God 7- a matter of the future

To be continued: Conceive + The one who spoke 2 millennia ago + Begotten

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Read also:

Christ in the Old Testament

Studies In The Scriptures – Tabernacle Shadows – Chapter 1

Christ begotten through the power of the Holy Spirit

Preexistence in the Divine purpose and Trinity
Human beings in Hebrew thought do not exist consciously before they are born.  In the Holy Scriptures we do also find no preexistence of souls. The notion that Jesus was really alive and conscious before his birth in Bethlehem is also a very unJewish idea.

Around pre-existence of Christ

Pre-existence of Christ #1 Intro #4 Jesus – His Parents #2 Difference

Pre-existence of Christ #1 Look #2 Jesus in the Old Testament

Pre-existence of Christ #1 Intro #4 Jesus – His Parents #2 Difference

No “pre-existence of Christ”?

Male And Female Roles In Christ

Thou shalt call His name JESUS

Christ, who is the image [eikon] of God

God or a god

Jesus man of flesh and bones

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In Dutch:

Christus verwekt door de Kracht van de Heilige Geest

Christus Jezus: de zoon van God #1 Teksten uit het Johannesevangelie Logos

Christus Jezus: de zoon van God #2 ‘de wereld is door hem geworden’

Christus Jezus: de zoon van God #3 ‘de eniggeboren zoon’

Zoon van God versus God de Zoon

Joh. 1:1> “… en het woord was god.”

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