Listening and Praying to the Father

Posted on August 13, 2012. Filed under: Being Christian, following Jesus Christ, Faith, Jehovah יהוה YHWH JHVH God Elohim Yahweh Jahweh, Naam van God | Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , |

In Matthew 21:28-32 we are told about a father who had two children. Approaching the first, he said, ‘Child, go work today in the vineyard.’ Now, this child responded, ‘I will, Sir’, but did not leave for the vineyard. The father approached the second child and requested the same, who said, ‘I will not!’ but later felt regret and went into the vineyard. Now, which of the two did the will of their father?” The priests and elders answered, “The last one.” Then Jesus said to them: “I tell you this truth: Tax-collectors and the sexually immoral are going ahead of you into the Realm of The God. John came to you in righteousness way and you did not believe him. But the tax-collectors and sexually immoral believed him. Not you–though seeing you did not feel regret later and so believe in John.” (Matthew 21:28-32 MHM)

Which one of the two children do we want to be? Do you recognise the one who says yes but does not act, or do we want to be the one who at first says not going to do it, but changes his mind? Do we want to hear the voice of the Almighty one? Do we even listen to the voice of the Lord Jesus, who asks us to do the will of the Father?

Do we are selves take our own steps and go the way Jesus directs us?

There is only one person to whom we have to give the full authority and to whom we have to give our ear and heart fully.

Jesus, been tempted could resist and said to the Devil (the adversary), “Be on your way, Satan, for it has been written, ‘You shall worship YHWH/Jehovah your God and to Him only shall you render divine service.’”” (Matthew 4:10)

Your God:
By this Jesus infers that YAHWEH or Jehovah is his God otherwise the quote makes no sense as a response to Satan. Over two dozen times the Scriptures use phrases indicating the Nazarene worships his own God. “The God of our Lord.” (#Ephesians 1:3, 17)

The Temptation of Christ, 1854

The Temptation of Christ, 1854 (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

It is only to Jehovah that we have to render divine service (The Greek is LATREUSEIS. Or, KJV: serve; RHM: divine service)

We have to fear the LORD of Lords, our God, and serve him, (De 6:13) and should listen to His wishes and His commandments.

By serving God, Jesus obtained all the earthly authority which the devil offered him, and heavenly authority in addition thereto (#Mt 28:18). So much better are the rewards of God than Satan’s.

The words “him alone thou shalt serve” need be recalled today. Jesus warned men against trying to serve God and mammon (#Mt 6:24). Jehovah had previously also brought His penalties over those who did not want to listen.
Jehovah gave indications that it was time to act. Also several prophets and Christian writers warned people. “Elijah came near to all the people, and said, “How long will you waver between the two sides? If the LORD is God, follow him; but if Baal, then follow him.” The people answered him not a word.” “(1Ki 18:21 HNV)

Evil or the devil, as the lord of the evil world, constantly tries to win men to the service of the world and God. This is his chief camouflage for destroying a preacher’s power for God. (The word in (#Mt 4:10) for serve is latreuseiv from latriv a hired servant, one who works for hire, then render worship.

Lots of people are in a position they feel secure because they take no parts. They are sometimes member of a denomination, though they have a lot of things they do not keep up to the rules of that denomination. (Compare in the Roman Catholic Church where the Pope has given a lot of rules, but which the majority neglect) A lot of the actions and feasts they hold are pagan and contrary to the Biblical teaching.

We do have to ask the question “How long shall we halt between two opinions?” If the LORD is God, follow him; but if Baal, then follow him. (1Kings 18:21 JB2000)

We have to come out of the world the Earthly Matters, the World of Babylon the Great. We should not be partakers of her sins. (Revelation 18:4)

We should not afraid of them that kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. (Matthew 10:28)

Let our seed be sown in good soil, so that we really can hear the right message and understand the Words of God, given to us by the Holy Scriptures. By choosing a denomination who keeps closer to the truth then others, we ourselves can protect ourselves more. By choosing the right religion we can become blessed and become productive. (Matthew 13:23)

Keep watch on yourselves, or your hearts will become dulled by carousing, drunkenness and the worries of everyday living, and that Day will be sprung upon you suddenly like a trap! For it will close in on everyone, no matter where they live, throughout the whole world. Stay alert, always praying that you will have the strength to escape all the things that will happen and to stand in the presence of the Son of Man. (Luke 21:34-36)

When we want to follow Jesus, we do have to listen to his words. He also learned his followers to pray to his , their and our Father, with the words ” Our Heavenly Father (Pater Noster), Let your Name be sanctified.”

 

Clearly Jesus does not demand to pray to him but to his Father.

  • Prayer invited
    God has clearly indicated that His people should call upon Him in prayer. [1 Kgs. 3:5; 2 Chron. 7:14; Ps. 50:15; Jer. 33:3.]
  • Prayer encouraged
    The Bible encourages us to pray. [1 Chron. 16:11; Ps. 32:6; Prov. 2:3; Joel 2:32; Mt. 7:7; Lk. 21:36; Jas. 1:5; 1 Jno. 3:22 .]
  • Response promised
    As an encouragement to active prayer God has promised to respond. [Ex. 22:27; Ps. 34:17; Isa. 30:19; Jer. 29:12; Mt. 6:6; 21:22; Jno. 9:31 ; 1 Jno. 5:15 .]
  • Prayer answered
    To emphasise that His promises do not fail, God has put on record evidence of His answer to prayer. [1 Kgs. 3:9,28 ; Ps. 34:4 ; Jas. 5:17 ; Dan. 9:20-23 ; Lk. 22:42 ,43 ; 2 Cor. 12:8,9]

We do have Christ as mediator between God and men (1 Timothy 2:5) who showed us the way to go directly to his and our Father. Already before Christ, from earliest times, there was such a two way communication by prayer, which we still can keep to practice our devotion to the Most High. (Genesis 1:28 ; 3:9)

Today we still can use the given model prayer “Our Father”.

Dictionary of New Testament Theology, Volume 1, page 615: “In the oldest version of this prayer, the invocation reads pater, (dear) Father, and indicates abba as the Aramaic original. This means that when Jesus gave his disciples the Lord’s Prayer, he gave them authority to follow him in addressing God as abba and so gave them a share in his status as Son.”

Dictionary of New Testament Theology, Volume 1, page 617: “The description of God as Father never refers to any other individual or to mankind in general. To be a child of God is not a natural state or quality. …  In Palestinian Judaism of the pre-Christian period the description of God as Father is rare. The Qumran texts provide but a single example. …  We have yet to find an example of an individual addressing God as ‘my Father.’ …  Jesus did not teach the idea that God is the Father of all men. …  It must have been nothing short of outrageous that Jesus should make use of the completely unceremonious Aramaic word abba.”

Let your Name be sanctified; Faithful Christians should honour the Name of the Most high.
Jesus does not use the opportunity to incorporate the noma sagrada or Divine Name (YHWH = Jehovah; # Exodus 3:15) in his model prayer. Jesus uses the words “your name” with reference to the Father rarely in the Synoptic Gospels. In John the Nazarene uses the expression at  John 12:28; John 17:6, 26. However, he never uses or pronounces YHWH in these contexts. Why? In Jesus’ day the Jews refrained from uttering the name YHWH and substituted Elohim (God) or Adonay (Lord). The Jews never removed YHWH from its nearly 7,000 occurrences in the Old Testament.

About the year 1,000 CE Jewish copyists began to incorporate vowel points in YHWH to warn to say God or Lord in its place.
Does the Nazarene ever use YHWH? The Gospel evidence would indicate this could only be when he is quoting the Hebrew Bible. It is now thought that the Greek version of the Hebrew Bible, known as The Septuagint (LXX), had YHWH untransliterated in the Greek text. There is a good reason for this. The Greek language cannot convert the Hebrew letters for YHWH. Modern Greek dictionaries use dzehoba or Iekhoba for “Jehovah” but original Greek did not have an “h” as it were, other than a breath sound. Modern Greek attempts to capture the sound of the English pronunciation of the name.

Given the attitude of the Jews what would have happened if Jesus used YHWH in quotes or normal speech? Certainly equal to that misguided accusation that he violated the Sabbath! Yet the Gospels are silent on this. What about private meetings with his disciples when the use of YHWH could not cause a public stir? Compare the lengthy closing words in  John 13$ to 17. Not once does Jesus use YHWH even though he alludes to the “name” four times.
Given the facts that the Jews do not attack him for violating their understanding of one of the Ten Commandments and the absence of his use in private speeches and prayers, it would seem he respected the Jewish tradition of the time.
This does not minimize the importance of the “Name” as Jesus’ words in his prayer shows. The idea of this sanctification occurs scores of times in the Hebrew Bible. Compare Exodus 3:14, 15, 6:3.

Various renderings are: TCNT: May thy name be held holy; MOF: thy name be revered; PHI: may your name be honored.

Honouring the name of the Creator of all things is one way of bringing veneration to the Most High. Saying the words Jesus learnt us to speak, we can worship God with the Lord’s Prayer: “Our Father” and asking “Let your Kingdom come. Let your Will take place,  as in heaven, also on earth. “

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“9 After this manner therefore pray you: Our Father which are in heaven, Hallowed be your name.
10 Your kingdom come. Your will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil:
For yours is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever. Amen.”
(Matthew 6:9-13 KJBPNV)
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  • Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God (christadelphians.wordpress.com)
    Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
  • Worship and worshipping (christadelphians.wordpress.com)
    The worshipping or act of bringing worship can be done in different forms, which shall be spoken of in different articles. It can be done in the house by a private person or member of the community or in a special built or purpose-built place of worship,  like a church or meeting room, or in a public place or in the open. In the Christadelphian community we mostly call the Meeting Hall “Ecclesia House”, “Ecclesia building” or simply “Ecclesia”.

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The Soul confronted with Death

Posted on March 21, 2012. Filed under: Bible Study and Bible Reading, Jehovah יהוה YHWH JHVH God Elohim Yahweh Jahweh, Jesus Christ Jeshua the Messiah Jahushua, Kingdom of God, Life and Death | Tags: , , , , , , , , , , |

Souls

Gator and Python

An American alligator and a Burmese python locked in a struggle to prevail in Everglades National Park - Lori Oberhofer, National Park Service

At the beginning of the times יהוה (Jehovah) God, the Creator of all things,  said, “Let the waters swarm with swarmers having a soul of life; and let the birds fly over the earth, on the face of the expanse of the heavens.” And God created the great sea animals, and all that creeps, having a living soul, which roamed the waters, according to its kind; and every bird with wing according to its kind. And God, the Elohim, saw that it was good. And God blessed them, saying, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas; and let the birds multiply in the earth.” And there was evening, and there was morning the fifth day. And God said, “Let the earth bring forth the soul of life according to its kind: cattle, and creepers, and its beasts of the earth, according to its kind.” And it was so. And God made the beasts of the earth according to its kind, and cattle according to its kind, and all creepers of the ground according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. And God said, “let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over all the creepers creeping on the earth. And God created the man in His own image;” in the image of God He created him. He created them male and female.
The soul was and is the body with life, and can be a man or an animal. When God formed the man of the dust of the earth, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, man became a living soul.
All the souls are Gods, be it an animal or human being, baby, child, adolescent, adult, father or mother, so also the soul of the son–they all belong to the Creator God Almighty. Because of the first sin all souls shall have to face death. Breathshall leave the body and as such that soul does die.

“And Elohim said, “Let the waters teem with shoals of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth on the face of the expanse of the heavens.” And Elohim created great sea creatures and every living creature that moves, with which the waters teemed, according to their kind, and every winged bird according to its kind. And Elohim saw that it was good. And Elohim blessed them, saying, “Bear fruit and increase, and fill the waters in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, the fifth day. And Elohim said, “Let the earth bring forth the living creature according to its kind: livestock and creeping creatures and beasts of the earth, according to its kind.” And it came to be so. And Elohim made the beast of the earth according to its kind, livestock according to its kind, and all that creep on the earth according to its kind. And Elohim saw that it was good. And Elohim said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over the livestock, and over all the earth and over all the creeping creatures that creep on the earth.” And Elohim created the man in His image, in the image of Elohim He created him – male and female He created them. ” (Genesis 1:20-27 The Scriptures 1998+)
“And יהוה Elohim formed the man out of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils breath of life. And the man became a living being.” (Genesis 2:7 The Scriptures 1998+)
“And so it has been written, “The first man Aḏam became a living being,” the last Aḏam a life-giving Spirit.” (1 Corinthians 15:45 The Scriptures 1998+)

“See, all beings are Mine, the being of the father as well as the being of the son is Mine. The being that is sinning shall die. ” (Ezekiel 18:4 The Scriptures 1998+)

“But Elohim proves His own love for us, in that while we were still sinners, Messiah died for us. Much more then, having now been declared right by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. For if, being enemies, we were restored to favour with Elohim through the death of His Son, much more, having been restored to favour, we shall be saved by His life. And not only this, but we also exult in Elohim through our Master יהושע Messiah, through whom we have now received the restoration to favour. For this reason, even as through one man sin did enter into the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned – for until the Torah, sin was in the world, but sin is not reckoned when there is no Torah. But death reigned from Aḏam until Mosheh, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Aḏam, who is a type of Him who was to come. But the favourable gift is not like the trespass. For if by the one man’s trespass many died, much more the favour of Elohim, and the gift in favour of the one Man, יהושע Messiah, overflowed to many. And the favourable gift is not as by one having sinned. For indeed the judgment was of one to condemnation, but the favourable gift is of many trespasses unto righteousness. For if by the trespass of the one, death did reign through the one, much more those who receive the overflowing favour and the gift of righteousness shall reign in life through the One, יהושע Messiah. So then, as through one trespass there resulted condemnation to all men, so also through one righteous act there resulted righteous-declaring of life to all men. ” (Romans 5:8-18 The Scriptures 1998+)

“Do not put your trust in princes, In a son of man, in whom is no deliverance. His spirit goes out, he returns to his earth; In that day his plans perish. Blessed is he who has the Ěl of Yaʽaqoḇ for his help, Whose expectancy is in יהוה his Elohim, Maker of the heavens and earth, The sea and all that is in them, Who is guarding truth forever, ” (Psalms 146:3-6 The Scriptures 1998+)
“You hide Your face, they are alarmed; You take away their breath, they die and return to their dust; ” (Psalms 104:29 The Scriptures 1998+)

Whatever we try to do, one day we all shall have to face the end of our life, except those who shall still be alive when at the Last Word War, the Armageddon, would belong to those surviving who shall be there to see the return of Christ יהושע Jesus (Jeshua or  Iēsoun) and be judged by him.

Cause of death

יהוה  looked at His creations and gave His first commandment: “You may eat fruit from any tree in the garden, except the one that has the power to let you know the difference between right and wrong. If you eat any fruit from that tree, you will die before the day is over!” (Genesis 2:16-17 CEV) Because man did not listen to his Creator he had to feel the consequences  and the day he eat fruit from that tree he saw what he had done, and knew the difference between right and wrong, just as God does.
Jehovah God punished the first man and woman, but also brought a solution to their wrong going. Because they had not obeyed, they were reprimanded and became cursed. God greatly increased the woman’s pains in childbirth and her desire will be for her husband who was going to rule over her. But the male could not escape either because he had listened to his wife and ate from the tree about which God commanded him, ‘You must not eat of it’. Cursed is the ground because of him; through painful toil we will eat of it all the days of our life. It will produce thorns and thistles for us, while we shall have to eat the plants of the field. We will eat our food by the sweat of our brow until we return to the ground. As we came from the ground, for dust we are and to dust we will return. (Genesis 3:12-19)

Jehovah said: »The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.« Therefore Jehovah God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken.

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First sin, eating from the tree which was forbidden by God

“And יהוה  Elohim commanded the man, saying, “Eat of every tree of the garden, but do not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for in the day that you eat of it you shall certainly die.” ” (Genesis 2:16-17 The Scriptures 1998+)
““For Elohim knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes shall be opened, and you shall be like Elohim, knowing good and evil.” And the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, and she took of its fruit and ate. And she also gave to her husband with her, and he ate. Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked. And they sewed fig leaves together and made loin coverings for themselves. ” (Genesis 3:5-7 The Scriptures 1998+)

“And the man said, “The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me of the tree and I ate.” And יהוה  Elohim said to the woman, “What is this you have done?” And the woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.” And יהוה  Elohim said to the serpent, “Because you have done this, you are cursed more than all livestock and more than every beast of the field. On your belly you are to go, and eat dust all the days of your life. “And I put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed1. He shall crush your head, and you shall crush His heel.” Footnote: 1First promise of the Messiah. To the woman He said, “I greatly increase your sorrow and your conception – bring forth children in pain. And your desire is for your husband, and he does rule over you.” And to the man He said, “Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten of the tree of which I commanded you, saying, ‘Do not eat of it’: “Cursed is the ground because of you, in toil you are to eat of it all the days of your life, and the ground shall bring forth thorns and thistles for you, and you shall eat the plants of the field. “By the sweat of your face you are to eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are, and to dust you return.” ” (Genesis 3:12-19 The Scriptures 1998+)

“And יהוה  Elohim said, “See, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever…” so יהוה  Elohim sent him out of the garden of Ěḏen to till the ground from which he was taken, and He drove the man out. And He placed keruḇim at the east of the garden of Ěḏen, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life. ” (Genesis 3:22-24 The Scriptures 1998+)

It was the wrong thinking, the opposition (satan) against the orders of God. Adam and Eve had become adversaries (satan) of God. The resistance (satan) to the commandments of God brings disunity with God. Everybody who does something wrong sins and comes from this adversary (Satan, commonly called the devil). Being descendants from Adam we are damaged, born in sin and imperfect.

Humans followed their own thoughts and became we were enemies of their Creator, Jehovah God. though we were reconciled to God through the death of His son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by Jesus Christ his life. And not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom now we received the reconciliation. Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death passed to all men, because all sinned. Only Jesus managed to stay without sin, though he could sin.

By the first sin death had come into life of the souls (men and women).  Until the law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who did not sin,  because not everyone disobeyed a direct command from God, according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam, who is a type of ‘him who was to come’. But the free gift is not like the offence. For if by the offence of one man many died, much more the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abounded to the many.
Jesus Christ alone brought God‘s gift of kindness to many people.  There is a lot of difference between Adam’s sin and God’s gift. That one sin led to punishment. But God’s gift made it possible for us to be acceptable to him, even though we have sinned many times.  For the judgement which came from one offence resulted in condemnation, but the free gift from many offences resulted in justification. For if by the offence of the one man death reigned through the one man, much more those receiving the abundance of the grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.

Death ruled like a king because Adam had sinned, which brought by his offence judgement to all men, resulting in condemnation. But that cannot compare with what יהושע  Jesus Christ as 2° Adam has done. God has been so kind to us, and he has accepted us because of Jesus. And so we will live and rule like kings.  For through the disobedience of the one man the many were constituted sinners, so also through the obedience of the One many shall be constituted righteous.

“For this reason, even as through one man sin did enter into the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned – for until the Torah, sin was in the world, but sin is not reckoned when there is no Torah. But death reigned from Aḏamm until Mosheh, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Aḏamm, who is a type of Him who was to come. But the favourable gift is not like the trespass. For if by the one man’s trespass many died, much more the favour of Elohim, and the gift in favour of the one Man, יהושע ? Messiah, overflowed to many. And the favourable gift is not as by one having sinned. For indeed the judgment was of one to condemnation, but the favourable gift is of many trespasses unto righteousness. For if by the trespass of the one, death did reign through the one, much more those who receive the overflowing favour and the gift of righteousness shall reign in life through the One, יהושע  Messiah. So then, as through one trespass there resulted condemnation to all men, so also through one righteous act there resulted righteous-declaring of life to all men. For as through the disobedience of one man many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the One many shall be made righteous. ” (Romans 5:12-19 The Scriptures 1998+)

Life is short and sorrowful for every living soul. We are like flowers that fade and shadows that vanish. Like Adam and all the others after him and before us we shall have to die and become forgotten by many. Nobody is able to keep his soul alive.

When a tree is chopped down, there is always the hope that it will sprout again. Its roots and stump may rot, but at the touch of water, fresh twigs shoot up. Humans are different — we die, and that’s the end. When the breath goes out of our body it is as we fall into ‘the sleep of death’, never to rise again, having everything going to rot away and deteriorate until it all has become dust.

““Man born of woman is of few days and turmoil-filled. He comes forth like a flower and withers. He flees like a shadow and does not continue.” (Job 14:1-2 The Scriptures 1998+)
“and man shall lie down and not rise. Till the heavens are no more, they awake not, nor are aroused from their sleep.” (Job 14:12 The Scriptures 1998+)

“Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die. ” (Ezekiel 18:4 ASV)

“All the fat ones of the earth Shall eat and bow themselves; All who go down to the dust bow before Him, Even he who did not keep alive his own life. ” (Psalms 22:29 The Scriptures 1998+)

“‘And it shall be that every being who does not hear that Prophet1 shall be utterly destroyed from among the people.’ Footnote: 1Deut. 18:18-20. ” (Acts 3:23 The Scriptures 1998+)

Rites for the dead do nothing

Bainingsfiredancer

Baining firedance ceremony to celebrate the birth of new children; the commencement of harvests and also a way of remembering the dead - Photo Taro Taylor

When we are alive we do not know about our selves what was before we were born and the things from our childhood stay in our mind by the recollection of our thoughts.  When we are kicking and alive we do feel pain, anger and have hopefor many things. We are aware of passing time and know that we shall die, but the dead know nothing whatsoever and you could take that their state is the same as before we were born, or as in a deep sleep.

We are conscious that all that our hand finds to do,  we do have to do with our vigour or with all our might, for there is no doing, nor device machination or knowledge or wisdom in the unseen (a place which is the grave or sepulchre often called Hades, Sheol or Hell) where we shall be  going when we die.

“For the living know that they shall die, but the dead know naught, nor do they have any more reward, for their remembrance is forgotten. ” (Ecclesiastes 9:5 The Scriptures 1998+)
“All that your hand finds to do, do it with your might; for there is no work or planning or knowledge or wisdom in the grave where you are going. ” (Ecclesiastes 9:10 The Scriptures 1998+)
“And his servants said to him, “What is this that you have done? You fasted and wept because of the living child, but when the child died, you rose up and ate food.” And he said, “While the child was alive I fasted and wept, for I said, ‘Who knows whether יהוה  shows favour unto me, and the child shall live?’ “But now he is dead, why should I fast? Am I able to bring him back again? I am going to him, but he does not return to me.” ” (2 Samuel 12:21-23 The Scriptures 1998+)

Hope for the living

Funeral mat

Mourning at a Tongan funeral - Photo James Foster

Man shall surely die, but we are given the hope of a new life in a Kingdom of God where there shall be peace for ever and no suffering, no pain, no dead any more. “Dead” Our trespasses and sins caused us to be dead toward God. (Genesis 2:17; Ephesians 2:12)

All are condemned in one representative, ransomed by one, die for Adam’s sin. God’s plan will be testified to those who want to listen knowing that their life is but short.  God the Saviour has given His only begotten son. This man from Nazareth was able to stay sinless and had no reason to die, but gave his body for all sinners.

Those who want to follow this man the son of men and the son of God, and wants to be in Christ, can be made alive again, when they accept Jesus as ransom for them.

We never shall be able to escape the sentence for what we have done wrong. All the inward corruption is revealed to God, as many a saint after King David has found out by bitter experience that in our flesh there dwells no good thing. We are all shaped in iniquity and in sin.

“See, I was brought forth in crookedness, And in sin my mother conceived me. ” (Psalms 51:5 The Scriptures 1998+)

Confession and repentance shall make to what is going to happen with us. We should have a desire so fervent for renewal, a trust so humble, so filial in
the forgiving love of God, as we might surely expect from ‘the man after God’s own heart’ who is called Jeshua or Jesus from Nazareth, the Christos or Christ the Messiah. God said in Genesis 6:3, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever.” When we hear or sense the conviction of the Holy Spirit we must respond to it immediately, because it might not always be there.

“And you were dead in trespasses and sins,1 Footnote: 1v.5 and 5:14, Mt. 8:22, Rom. 8:6, Col. 2:13, 1 Tim. 5:6, 1 John 3:14, Rev. 3:1. ” (Ephesians 2:1 The Scriptures 1998+)

Man concludes that an issue is right or wrong based on the information he has at his disposal, including the Word of God.  God determines that an issue is right or wrong based on His absolute Righteousness and Justice.  Man’s freedom of will and the capacity to act in accord with his decisions mirrors God’s sovereignty.

We do have the capacity in us to accept, respond, understand and relate to the created world on the basis of human or physical phenomena. We ourselves are responsible for everything we do. though at first we may be lost and bound up by our transgression we can work at our ‘soul’ or our thinking every day of our life, as long as we live. So we should be ready to be able to be accepted by God before the moment comes that we shall have to face our death.

We should try to hear the Call of God and react accordingly our will. When we are willing to follow Jesus Christ, the son of God and do what the Father requires of us than God shall call us new creatures in Christ, old ambitions have passed away.

Ordinary flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God; nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable, but in Christ we are being cleansed. In case some of us would still be alive when Christ returns,  not all will be in ‘the sleep,’ but believers will all be changed. For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality.

“And this I say, brothers, that flesh and blood is unable to inherit the reign of Elohim, neither does corruption inherit incorruption. See, I speak a secret to you: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible has to put on incorruption, and this mortal to put on immortality. And when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall come to be the word that has been written, “Death is swallowed up in overcoming.” “O Death, where is your sting? O grave, where is your overcoming?” And the sting of death is the sin, and the power of the sin is the Torah. But thanks to Elohim who gives us the overcoming through our Master יהושע  Messiah. Therefore, my beloved brothers, be steadfast, immovable, always excelling in the work of the Master, knowing that your labour is not in vain in the Master. ” (1 Corinthians 15:50-58 The Scriptures 1998+)
Or do you not know that as many of us as were immersed into Messiah יהושע  were immersed into His death? We were therefore buried with Him through immersion into death, that as Messiah was raised from the dead by the esteem of the Father, so also we should walk in newness of life. For if we have come to be grown together in the likeness of His death, we shall be also of the resurrection, knowing this, that our old man was impaled with Him, so that the body of sin might be rendered powerless, to serve sin no longer. For he who has died has been made right from sin. And if we died with Messiah, we believe that we shall also live with Him, knowing that Messiah, having been raised from the dead, dies no more – death no longer rules over Him. For in that He died, He died to sin once for all; but in that He lives, He lives to Elohim. So you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to Elohim in Messiah יהושע  our Master.
(Romans 6:3-11 The Scriptures 1998+)

Liberation from Adamitic death by Ransom of Christ Jesus

God has testified about the liberation from death we can enjoy, with signs, wonders, and various miracles, and gifts of the Holy Spirit. In history we can find a man placed a little lower than the angels for a little while whom Jehovah had set over the works of His hands. It is by the grace of God that this man from Nazareth tasted death for every man.

It became him giving his brethren necessary experiences to lead them to God, to glory, and to be their elder brother. It was necessary that a perfect man should die, that Adam and the race condemned in him might be released from death by a resurrection.  As a fitting ransom or substitute he gave his body. He, the ransomer of all, is their Head, their Chief, the Captain of their salvation, the Inaugurator,  the captain hierarch, of their salvation perfect through sufferings. In the man who was willing to pay the ransom for all we can see the sanctifier, Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus.

“Therefore, set-apart brothers, partakers of the heavenly calling, closely consider the Emissary and High Priest of our confession, Messiah יהושע” (Hebrews 3:1 The Scriptures 1998+)
“But we do see Him who was made for a little while lower than the messengers, יהושע, because of the suffering of death crowned with esteem and respect, that by the favour of Elohim He should taste death for everyone. For it was fitting for Him, because of whom all are and through whom all are, in bringing many sons to esteem, to make the Princely Leader of their deliverance perfect through sufferings. For both He who sets apart and those who are being set apart are all of One, for which reason He is not ashamed to call them brothers, saying, “I shall announce Your Name to My brothers,1 in the midst of the congregation I shall sing praise to You.” Footnote: 1Ps. 22:22, Ps. 45:17, John 17:6 & 26. And again, “I shall put My trust in Him.” And again, “See, I and the children whom Elohim gave Me.” Therefore, since the children share in flesh and blood, He Himself similarly shared in the same, so that by means of His death He might destroy him having the power of death, that is, the devil, and deliver those who throughout life were held in slavery by fear of death. For, doubtless, He does not take hold of messengers, but He does take hold of the seed of Aḇraham. So in every way He had to be made like His brothers, in order to become a compassionate and trustworthy High Priest in matters related to Elohim, to make atonement for the sins of the people. For in what He had suffered, Himself being tried, He is able to help those who are tried.
(Hebrews 2:9-18 The Scriptures 1998+)

We all should know that there is only one God. He is the one who had taken care that His son could show the way to Him. God, the invisible (1 Timothy 1:17) who is our Father is also the Saviour-God, but is also the Father of Christ Jesus, who is the Saviour-man.  Christ Jesus, only begotten son of God, is the only one who can bring us to God. Jesus was truly human, and he gave himself to rescue all of us.

God, the One giving life to all persons and all things, and before Christ Jesus, the one having to testify before Pontius Pilate the good confession, for us to keep the commandment spotless and blameless or, above reproach, until the Appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, which He will reveal in His own times and even Jesus did not know when he was going to return. The blessed and only Sovereign, the King of the ones being kings and Lord of the ones exercising lordship, the only One having immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no one of people saw nor is able to see, to whom is honour and eternal might or, dominion!
Those believing in the Only One God and in the son He has given to the world  all things richly for enjoyment, to be doing good, to be growing rich in good works, and to be generous, ready to share, treasuring or, storing up for ourselves a good foundation for the coming time, so that we shall take hold of eternal life.

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Jesus pulls Adam and Eve out of their graves that lead to Hell or Limbo before he resurrects. This is explained by some as the Last Judgment. - Chora Church/Museum, Istanbul,fresco,Anastasis, Harrowing of Hell and Resurrection - Photo Gunnar Bach Pedersen

God’s son is not able to be doing anything of himself. It is because the Father affectionately loves the Son and shows to him all which He Himself does, and greater works than these He will show to Him, so that every one shall be marvelling. For even as the Father has life in Himself, so He gave also to the Son to be having life in himself. For even as the Father raises the dead ones and makes alive, so also the Son makes alive whom he wills. For neither does the Father judge anyone, but He has given all judgement to the Son, so that all shall be honouring the Son just as they honour the Father.

Jesus has received everything of his Father. We should accept that he did not have it from himself. But all that the Father has given to him will come to him, and the one coming to Jesus he shall by no means cast out. Because Jesus have come down out of heaven, not so that he was going to do his own will, but the will of the One having sent him, namely his Father the Only One God Jehovah. In him who was been sent by his Father and who did the Will of the Father we should trust and know that we shall be able to find eternal life, because it is this Son of god, Jesus Christ the Messiah who will raise the believer up on the last day.

“For there is one Elohim,1 and one Mediator between Elohim and men, the Man Messiah יהושע, Foornote: 11 Cor. 8:6, Eph. 4:6, Mk. 12:29-34. who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be witnessed in its own seasons,” (1 Timothy 2:5-6 The Scriptures 1998+)
“In the sight of Elohim who gives life to all, and of Messiah יהושע who witnessed the good confession before Pontius Pilate, I charge you: that you guard the command1 spotlessly, blamelessly, until the appearing of our Master יהושע ? Messiah, Footnote: 1Command (singular) often means commands, e.g. Dt. 17:20, Ps. 19:8. which in His own seasons He shall reveal – the blessed and only Ruler, the Sovereign of sovereigns and Master of masters, who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or is able to see, to whom be respect and everlasting might. Amĕn. ” (1 Timothy 6:13-16 The Scriptures 1998+)

““And whoever wishes to be first among you, let him be your servant, even as the Son of Aḏam did not come to be served, but to serve,1 and to give His life as a ransom for many.” Footnote:1See Mark 10:45 and Isa. 49:1-7.” (Matthew 20:27-28 The Scriptures 1998+)

““For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all that He Himself does. And greater works than these He is going to show Him, in order that you marvel. “For as the Father raises the dead and makes alive, even so the Son makes alive whom He wishes. “For the Father judges no one, but has given all the judgment to the Son, that all should value the Son even as they value the Father. He who does not value the Son does not value the Father who sent Him. “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me possesses everlasting life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. “Truly, truly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of Elohim. And those having heard shall live. “For as the Father possesses life in Himself, so He gave also to the Son to possess life in Himself, and He has given Him authority also to do judgment, because He is the Son of Ad?am. “Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the tombs shall hear His voice, and shall come forth – those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have practised evil matters, to a resurrection of judgment. “Of Myself I am unable to do any matter. As I hear, I judge, and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own desire, but the desire of the Father who sent Me. “If I bear witness of Myself, My witness is not true. “There is another who bears witness of Me, and I know that the witness which He witnesses of Me is true. ” (John 5:20-32 The Scriptures 1998+)

“Truly, truly, I say to you, if anyone guards My Word he shall never see death at all.”  (John 8:51 The Scriptures 1998+)
““All that the Father gives Me shall come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I shall by no means cast out. “Because I have come down out of the heaven, not to do My own desire, but the desire of Him who sent Me. “This is the desire of the Father who sent Me, that all He has given Me I should not lose of it, but should raise it in the last day. “And this is the desire of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him should possess everlasting life. And I shall raise him up in the last day.” ” (John 6:37-40 The Scriptures 1998+)

Death destroyed

Brooklyn Museum - Last Judgment

The Last Judgment - circa 1551 Circle of Pieter Pourbus (circa 1523/1524–1584) (1524–1584)

“If in this life only we have expectation in Messiah, we are of all men the most wretched. But now Messiah has been raised from the dead, and has become the first-fruit of those having fallen asleep. For since death is through a man, resurrection of the dead is also through a Man. For as all die in Aḏam, so also all shall be made alive in Messiah . And each in his own order: Messiah the first-fruits, then those who are of Messiah at His coming, then the end, when He delivers up the reign to Elohim the Father, when He has brought to naught all rule and all authority and power. For He has to reign until He has put all enemies under His feet. The last enemy to be brought to naught is death. For “He has put all under His feet.” But when He says “all are put under Him,” it is clear that He who put all under Him is excepted. And when all are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself shall also be subject to Him who put all under Him, in order that Elohim be all in all.” (1 Corinthians 15:19-28 The Scriptures 1998+)

““And Elohim shall wipe away every tear from their eyes, and there shall be no more death, nor mourning, nor crying. And there shall be no more pain, for the former matters have passed away.” ” (Revelation 21:4 The Scriptures 1998+)
“And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, and death and the grave gave up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. And the death and the grave were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death.1 Footnote: 1See 2:11, 20:6, 21:8. ” (Revelation 20:13-14 The Scriptures 1998+)

“He shall swallow up death forever, and the Master יהוה shall wipe away tears from all faces, and take away the reproach of His people from all the earth. For יהוה has spoken. And it shall be said in that day, “See, this is our Elohim. We have waited for Him, and He saves us. This is יהוה , we have waited for Him, let us be glad and rejoice in His deliverance.” ” (Isaiah 25:8-9 The Scriptures 1998+)

The first death comes to an end by Christ Jesus, but after the thousand years shall come for some the last death to be destroyed for ever.

Those who oppose God, often called the devils or Satan that deceived others shall be into “the lake of fire and brimstone” the hell or sheol, the grave, where also the murderers, adulterers,  sexual sinners, sorcerers , idolaters, all the liars, false prophets and the God haters,  shall be tormented in the knowledge they were wrong and now have to diminish for ever.  They shall disappear in the grave and death and Hades (the grave) will be were cast into the “lake of fire”, the destruction. This moment of devastation shall bring annihilation. This obliteration for the wicked being the second death.

“And when the thousand years have ended, Satan shall be released from his prison, and he shall go out to lead the nations astray which are in the four corners of the earth, Goḡ and Maḡoḡ, to gather them together for battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. And they came up over the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the set-apart ones and the beloved city. And fire came down from Elohim out of the heaven and consumed them. And the devil, who led them astray, was thrown into the lake of fire and sulphur where the beast and the false prophet are. And they shall be tortured day and night forever and ever. And I saw a great white throne and Him who was sitting on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before the throne, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged from what was written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, and death and the grave gave up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. And the death and the grave were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death.1 Footnote: 1See 2:11, 20:6, 21:8. And if anyone was not found written in the Book of Life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. ” (Revelation 20:7-15 The Scriptures 1998+)
““But as for the cowardly, and untrustworthy, and abominable, and murderers, and those who whore, and drug sorcerers, and idolaters, and all the false, their part is in the lake which burns with fire and sulphur, which is the second death.” ” (Revelation 21:8 The Scriptures 1998+)

Therefore let us not being corrupted, be thirsting from the ‘spring of the water of life’ Jesus Christ the Messiah without cost. Hoping to be by the ones having been written in the Scroll of Life of the Lamb of God.

Let us look forward to the Return of Christ and to the moment that Jehovah will wipe away tears from off all faces. That day when many shall see the Father of יהושע Jesus (Jeshua) and call out “this is our God”; we have waited for him, and He will save us: this is Jehovah; we have waited for him, we will be glad and rejoice in his salvation.

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Please do find also:

  1. Atonement
  2. Dead and after
  3. Destination of righteous
  4. Destination of the earth
  5. Evil in the Bible
  6. Fallen Angels
  7. God’s design in the creation of theworld
  8. God’s His reward
  9. God’s promises
  10. Hope
  11. Kingdom of God what will it be like
  12. New covenant
  13. One mediator
  14. Patient waiting
  15. Ressurection of Jesus Christ
  16. Satan or the devil
  17. Sheol or the grave
  18. Soul
  19. Immortality, eternality – onsterfelijkheid, eeuwigheid
  20. Dying or not
  21. What happens when we die?
  22. Place to be in Death #1 Becoming dust
  23. Place to be in Death #2 Made to live
  24. Place to be in Death #3 Whereabouts and condition of the dead
  25. Place to be in Death #4 Establishement of a new world
  26. Separation from God in death, the antithesis of life
  27. The Soul not a ghost
  28. Heaven, pets, and souls
  29. Decomposition, decay – vergaan, afsterven, ontbinding
  30. Human Nature: What does the Bible teach?
  31. If Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life be
  32. Rapture articles Rapture Exposed
    1.       Rapture what does it mean?
    2.       The Rapture or admittance with Christ
    3.       Gather together with Jesus Christ
    4.       Raptured in clouds

In Dutch:

  1. Wat gebeurt er als wij sterven
  2. De Bijbel onze Gids #4 De Staat van de Doden
  3. Al of niet onsterfelijkheid
  4. Leven na de dood
  5. Lichaam en ziel één
  6. Zo maar gerechtvaardigd?
  7. De hoop op leven
  8. Immortality, eternality – onsterfelijkheid, eeuwigheid
  9. Onsterfelijkheid – Immortaliteit
  10. Ontbinding
  11. Wij zijn sterfelijk en zullen tot stof vergaan
  12. Tot bewust zijn komen voor huidig leven
  13. Hoe zullen de doden weer levend gemaakt worden?
  14. Rapture of Wegvoering blootgelegd:
    1.      Wat betekent Rapture of Vervoering?
    2.       De vervoering of toegang met Christus
    3.       Verzamelen met Jezus Christus
    4.       Vervoering in de wolken
  15. God liefhebbenden gerechtvaardigd
  16. In leven na dood gelovende Duitsers
  17. Praten tot de doden
  18. Zo maar gerechtvaardigd?
  19. De dood niet vrezen
  20. Omgaan met de dood
  21. Lam van God #2 Jezus moest sterven

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  • Jesus begotten Son of God #14 Beloved Preminent Son and Mediator originating in Mary (christadelphians.wordpress.com)
  • Too Soon? (withapology.wordpress.com)
    Yahshua also knew the goal. In order for the redemption to be just and complete Yahshua could not have been given a better shot.
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    Yahshua knowingly and willingly faced death because he knew it would benefit others, that seems like a kind of guy you would like to keep around. Yahshua, like Adam, however was tempted with the short cut.
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    We have less of an excuse then Adam did. Adam spoiled his dinner by eating from the cookie jar too soon, yet all we eat are the cookies because we refuse to do differently. A part of that is due to the sin nature. However since the death, resurrection, and ascension of Yahshua we don’t even have that excuse to fall back on. Yahshua died to give us the grace to not only overcome temptation, but to overcome the cause of temptation, the curse of the Tree of Knowledge. We do this by doing what Adam should have done.
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    Yahweh knows that knowledge is a powerful tool, and that people with powerful tools usually hurt themselves. So be patient and obey his commands. By doing so we can make the right decisions and we can then apply wisdom to our knowledge of Good and Evil.
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Another way looking at a language #3 Abraham

Posted on November 17, 2011. Filed under: Bible Study and Bible Reading, Holy Scriptures, Life and Death, Satan and Evil | Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , |

Another way looking at a language

8. Proverbs and verbatim

As today in Dutch (About this sound Nederlands), and probably also in other languages as in English, we can find a lot of words which got a totally different or new extra meaning, so it happened in the early centuries of our Contemporary Timetable as well. Though many expressions we find in our day to day speech came originally from the Biblical times and can be found in the Bible books.

“Hij staat goed aangeschreven” or “to be in a person’s good books” can for example been tracked to Exodus 32:32 and “Zie niet aan, wat voor ogen is” to 1 Samuel 16:7 “for man looketh on the outward appearance, but Jehovah looketh on the heart.” or “zonder aanziens” “without fear or favour” from Romans 2:11, Deuteronomy 10:17 and Matthew 22:16: “For there is no acceptance of faces with God,” (Romans 2:11 YLT); “For Jehovah your God, he is God of gods, and Lord of lords, the great God, the mighty, and the terrible, who regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward.” (Deuteronomy 10:17 ASV); “… for thou regardest not the person of men.” (Matthew 22:16 ASV).

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North door of iconostasis. Icon of Paradise: Abraham's Bosom with the Good Thief entering to the left

“Hij zit op Abrahams schoot” literally meaning “he is sitting on Abrahams lap” or “Hij is van voor Abraham” literally translated “he is from Abrahams time”, though in normal language nobody is going to think he really was born before Abraham and is still living today, though with English speaking people we do find a lot of problems in their understanding of “I was before Abraham”. When we in Dutch say “she was born before Abraham” we do not mean the same as Jesus did, because today it means that she is an old fashioned person. But you can understand it would give problems if people from another language would go and take it literally, thinking that this woman existed before Abraham.

Also when we say “Hij of zij heeft Abraham gezien” or “he or she has seen Abraham” we do not mean that that person has actually met Abraham, seen or spoken to him, but we only indicate that that person has past half a century. The person is more than 50 years old but not thousands of years old.

9. Carried away into Abraham’s bosom

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The Story of Lazarus and Dives. Lazarus and the rich man are shown during life in the top register, in the middle is Lazarus in the Bosom of Abraham, and at the bottom Dives is suffering in Hades. + The word in the Greek text for "bosom" is kolpos, meaning "lap" "bay" relating to the Second Temple period practice of reclining and eating meals in proximity to other guests, the closest of whom physically was said to lie on the bosom (chest) of the host. (See John 13:23 ) - Illuminated manuscript, Codex Aureus of Echternach, c. 1035-1040. (Germanisches Nationalmuseum, Nürnberg.)

In Dutch it is clear as in Yiddish and Hebrew that the person of the Aramaic or Greek writing in Luke 16:22-23 that the beggar El‘azar or Lazarus was not literally carried by angel-persons or ghosts: “And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and that he was carried away by the angels into (אברהם) Abraham’s bosom: and the rich man also died, and was buried. And in Hades he lifted up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.” (Luke 16:22-23 ASV) In the East it was common to lie down at the meal, at the table on “rustbanken” or couches or settees. Often the head of one person rested against the bosom or breast of the other. After a nice meal it was not uncommon as it is still done in several ‘hot’ countries to take a little nap after dinner. The beggar did not get “Lazarus” (from “Lazarus worden” = “becoming drunk”, had drank too much alcohol) but was carried away in his death to come into Abraham his arms, meaning in the safety of our forefather.
The rich man and Lazarus” passage is cited as a literal description of actual events (and not as a parable) Stress is often placed upon words “there was a certain rich man” to emphasize the historical character of the language used. But in Luke 16:1 the parable of the unjust steward commences with the same language. Must this parable be read literally? (Similar language is used in other parables—sees Luke 12:16) Jesus did not definitely call it a parable.

Religious bodies like the Church of Christ hold the view that disbelievers go to hell (left hand side of the divided state of Hades or Sheol ()) whereas idol worshippers go straight to the lake of fire. It should be pointed out that this view puts Abraham in the lake of fire and not in Hades since it is recorded that Abraham “was gathered unto his people” (Genesis 25:8) and his people were idol worshippers. (Joshua 24:2) Lazarus is the only character personally named in the parables of Jesus, implying that Lazarus must have been known to the audience. This parable of Jesus might have been uttered after he received news of the death of his friend, Lazarus. The parable was given at Pereae, east of the Jordan at Bethabara (where news of Lazarus’ death came to him, John 11:6 cf. John 10:40; 1:28). It was an easy day’s journey from Bethabara to Bethany. Lazarus was typical of all Jews of this day. They were deprived of even the most meagre crumbs of the bread of life from the rich man’s table. (i.e., High Priestly class, but Caiaphas in particular). However much Lazarus might patiently await the rich man’s (Caiaphas) condescension, the High Priest was incapable of dispensing even spiritual crumbs.” {The Lazarus class was like the Gentile dogs who hoped for crumbs from their Master’s table. (Matthew 15:27).}

The passage speaks about bodies not souls. e.g., eyes, bosom (vs.23) tip of finger and tongue (vs. 24). Souls are said to be immaterial (the material body being left in the grave), how then could Lazarus (if really a soul) be carried by angels? (vs.22). How could Lazarus go literally to Abraham’s bosom? Abraham (as now) was unquestionably dead and without his reward. (Hebrews 11:8, 13, 39, 40).

Lazarus dies and in the parable, the premature death of Caiaphas is made to follow. In Hades they meet but in situations reversed. Caiaphas requests Abraham (with whom he claimed privilege by virtue of ancestry, (Matthew 3:9)) to warn his five brothers. The five brothers are the five brothers-in-law of Caiaphas, the Sadduceean High Priest. Caiaphas was son-in-law of Annas who had been deposed by the Romans for openly resisting them. The request is refused on the grounds that they had not heard Moses and the Prophets (e.g. in their attitude to adultery and resurrection, Luke 16:18; 20:27–38) nor would they respond if one rose from the dead. The resurrection of Lazarus further incensed the Pharisees, chief priests and Caiaphas who feared their loss of power. (John. 11:47–57).

The parable condemns Caiaphas the chief Shepherd of Israel for his selfish irresponsibility in neglecting the spiritual and material needs of Jews in Israel. Lazarus represents this neglected class. The parable is a further indictment of the Sadducees (who denied the resurrection of the body and were about to reject the miraculous resurrection of Lazarus) in their disbelief of Moses and the prophets. The parable is presented in terms of the popular belief of the Pharisees about the death state.

Meister des Codex Aureus Epternacensis (detail)

Codex Aureus Epternacensis (Goldenes Evangeliar), Prunkhandschrift, Szene: Gleichnis vom reichen Prasser und vom armen Lazarus, Folio 78 recto, detail

{Sheol = synonym of “bor” (pit), “abaddon” and “shaḥat” (pit or destruction), and perhaps also of “tehom” (abyss) = and denotes a place of abandon, a place to leave someone behind or grave.}

10. Point of view

Gustave Dore Lazarus and the Rich Man

Print by Gustave Doré illustrating the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, from the Gospel of Luke (1891)

Every time we do read something in the Holy Scriptureswe do have to look from which point of view it was been written and to whom it was said with the understanding that those who listened should get the meaning from their point of view.

The same it is for having a Satan around, meaning a ‘devil‘, not indicating a monstrous figure from a place called hell, but a bad person or an opponent, adversary, enemy and sometimes also an avenger. Lots of Christians would say about one or another person that he or she is a Satan, but do still want to believe that there is a real Satan lurking around the corner, who could capture that person away and bring them to places to burn for eternally, while they sometimes really say to someone else ‘go to hell” and ” burn forever”. (Would you really think they mean that really that person has to be smoked and can be put in a non ending fire?)

Therefore it is important that we try to find out where “Abraham got the mustard” (from) “waar Abraham de mosterd heeft vandaan gehaald” which has no similar equivalent in English where they would say: “to know how many beans go to the dozen” or “…. make five”.

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  • “Needer-lands” The life of a Canadian au pair in Aerdenhout Netherlands > “The closest English word you have is “cosy” but that only covers part of it.
    Instilled with a superiority complex, I was of the mindset that anything said in another language could be translated, with its full value intact, to English; being one of the “largest and more complex” languages of the world, how could it not accurately convey the meaning of the rather “primitive counterparts”? However, upon coming to the Netherlands, my outlook as changed substantially. Not only is the word’s largest dictionary the “Woordenboek der Nederlandsche Taal” (Dictionary of the Dutch Language), there are words in the Dutch language that [as far as I know] English lacks – descriptions of a complex situational/emotional/societal state by a sole descriptor. You could argue that these words can be effectively translated, however in my attempts I’ve found that nearly all the depth is lost in translation – the English words sound banal in comparison.
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    Gezellig:Google Translate tells you this means cosy – it can. I’m going to quote Wikipedia for this one, they’ve worded it so well!“A perfect example of untranslatability is seen in the Dutch language through the word gezellig, which does not have an English equivalent. Literally, it means cozy, quaint, or nice, but can also connote time spent with loved ones, seeing a friend after a long absence, or general togetherness.”

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Fragments from the Book of Job #1: chapters 1-12

Posted on June 17, 2011. Filed under: Bible Study and Bible Reading, Life and Death, Satan and Evil, Suffering | Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , |

Fragments from the story of Job or Jobab (Job 42:17) and its numerous exegeses attempting to address the problem of evil. (Highlights ours, in purpose for the study on suffering and Gods hand in it. But please take your translation at hand and read the full chapters.)

Brenton Translation
1851 by Lancelot Brenton

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Job Chapters 1-12

Job 1:1 There was a certain man in the land of Ausis, whose name [was] Job; and than man was true, blameless, righteous, [and] godly, abstaining from everything evil.
Job 1:2 And he had seven sons and three daughters.
Job 1:3 And his cattle consisted of seven thousand sheep, three thousand camels, five hundred yoke of oxen, five hundred she-asses in the pastures, and a very great household, and he had a great husbandry on the earth; and that man was [most] noble of the [men] of the east.

Job 1:6 And it came to pass on a day, that behold, the angels of God came to stand before the Lord, and the devil (the adversary) came with them.
Job 1:7 And the Lord said to the devil, Whence art thou come? And the devil answered the Lord, and said, I am come from compassing the earth, and walking up and down in the world.
Job 1:8 And the Lord said to him, Hast thou diligently considered my servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a man blameless, true, godly, abstaining from everything evil?
Job 1:9 Then the devil answered, and said before the Lord, Does Job worship the Lord for nothing?
Job 1:10 Hast thou not made a hedge about him, and about his household, and all his possessions round about? and hast thou not blessed the works of his hands, and multiplied his cattle upon the land?
Job 1:11 But put forth thine hand, and touch all that he has: verily he will bless thee to [thy] face.
Job 1:12 Then the Lord said to the devil, Behold, I give into thine hand all that he has, but touch not himself. So the devil went out from the presence of the Lord.

Job 1:20 So Job arose, and rent his garments, and shaved the hair of his head, and fell on the earth, and worshipped,
Job 1:21 and said, I myself came forth naked from my mother’s womb, and naked shall I return thither; the Lord gave, the Lord has taken away: as it seemed good to the Lord, so has it come to pass; blessed be the name of the Lord.
Job 1:22 In all these events that befell him Job sinned not at all before the Lord, and did not impute folly to God.

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Job 2:1 And it came to pass on a certain day, that the angels of God came to stand before the Lord, and the devil came among them to stand before the Lord.
Job 2:2 And the Lord, said to the devil, Whence comest thou? Then the devil said before the Lord, I (the evil) am come from going through the world, and walking about the whole earth.
Job 2:3 And the Lord said to the devil, Hast thou then observed my servant Job, that there is none of [men] upon the earth like him, a harmless, true, blameless, godly man, abstaining from all evil? and he yet cleaves to innocence, whereas thou has told [me] to destroy his substance without cause?
Job 2:4 And the devil answered and said to the Lord, Skin for skin, all that a man has will he give as a ransom for his life.
Job 2:5 Nay, but put forth thine hand, and touch his bones and his flesh: verily he will bless thee to [thy] face.
Job 2:6 And the Lord said to the devil, Behold, I deliver him up to thee; only save his life.
Job 2:7 So the devil went out from the Lord, and smote Job with sore boils from [his] feet to [his] head.

Job 2:10 …Thou hast spoken like one of the foolish women. If we have received good things of the hand of the Lord, shall we not endure evil things? In all these things that happened to him, Job sinned not at all with his lips before God.

Job 3:1 After this Job opened his mouth, and cursed his day,
Job 3:2 saying,
Job 3:3 Let the day perish in which I was born, and that night in which they said, Behold a man-child!
Job 3:4 Let that night be darkness, and let not the Lord regard it from above, neither let light come upon it.
Job 3:5 But let darkness and the shadow of death seize it; let blackness come upon it;
Job 3:6 let that day and night be cursed, let darkness carry them away; let it not come into the days of the year, neither let it be numbered with the days of the months.
Job 3:7 But let that night be pain, and let not mirth come upon it, nor joy.
Job 3:8 But let him that curses that day curse it, [even] he that is ready to attack the great whale.
Job 3:9 Let the stars of that night be darkened; let it remain [dark], and not come into light; and let it not see the morning star arise:
Job 3:10 because it shut not up the gates of my mother’s womb, for [so] it would have removed sorrow from my eyes.
Job 3:11 For why died I not in the belly? and [why] did I not come forth from the womb and die immediately?
Job 3:12 and why did the knees support me? and why did I suck the breasts?
Job 3:13 Now I should have lain down and been quiet, I should have slept and been at rest,
Job 3:14 with kings [and] councillors of the earth, who gloried in [their] swords;
Job 3:15 or with rulers, whose gold was abundant, who filled their houses with silver:
Job 3:16 or [I should have been] as an untimely birth proceeding from his mother’s womb, or as infants who never saw light.
Job 3:17 There the ungodly have burnt out the fury of rage; there the wearied in body rest.

Job 3:23 Death [is] rest to [such] a man, for God has hedged him in.
Job 3:24 For my groaning comes before my food, and I weep being beset with terror.
Job 3:25 For the terror of which I meditated has come upon me, and that which I had feared has befallen me.
Job 3:26 I was not at peace, nor quiet, nor had I rest; yet wrath came upon me.

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Job 4:5 Yet now [that] pain has come upon thee, and touched thee, thou art troubled.
Job 4:6 Is not thy fear [founded] in folly, thy hope also, and the mischief of thy way?
Job 4:7 Remember then who has perished, being pure? or when were the true-hearted utterly destroyed?
Job 4:8 Accordingly as I have seen men ploughing barren places, and they that sow them will reap sorrows for themselves.
Job 4:9 They shall perish by the command of the Lord, and shall be utterly consumed by the breath of his wrath.

Job 4:13 But [as when] terror falls upon men, with dread and a sound in the night,
Job 4:14 horror and trembling seized me, and caused all my bones greatly to shake.
Job 4:15 And a spirit came before my face; and my hair and flesh quivered.
Job 4:16 I arose and perceived it not: I looked, and there, was no form before my eyes: but I only heard a breath and a voice, [saying],
Job 4:17 What, shall a mortal be pure before the Lord? or a man be blameless in regard to his works?
Job 4:18 Whereas he trust not in his servants, and perceives perverseness in his angels.
Job 4:19 But [as for] them that dwell in houses of clay, of whom we also are formed of the same clay, he smites them like a moth.
Job 4:20 And from the morning to evening they no longer exist: they have perished, because they cannot help themselves.
Job 4:21 For he blows upon them, and they are withered: they have perished for lack of wisdom.

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Job 5:1 But call, if any one will hearken to thee, or if thou shalt see any of the holy angels.
Job 5:2 For wrath destroys the foolish one, and envy slays him that has gone astray.
Job 5:3 And I have seen foolish ones taking root: but suddenly their habitation was devoured.
Job 5:4 Let their children be far from safety, and let them be crushed at the doors of vile men, and let there be no deliverer.
Job 5:5 For what they have collected, the just shall eat; but they shall not be delivered out of calamities: let their strength be utterly exhausted.
Job 5:6 For labour cannot by any means come out of the earth, nor shall trouble spring out of the mountains:
Job 5:7 yet man is born to labour, and [even so] the vulture’s young seek the high places.
Job 5:8 Nevertheless I will beseech the Lord, and will call upon the Lord, the sovereign of all;
Job 5:9 who does great things and untraceable, glorious things also, and marvellous, of which there is no number:
Job 5:10 who gives rain upon the earth, sending water on the earth:
Job 5:11 who exalts the lowly, and raises up them that are lost:
Job 5:12 frustrating the counsels of the crafty, and their hands shall not perform the truth:
Job 5:13 who takes the wise in their wisdom, and subverts the counsel of the crafty
Job 5:14 In the day darkness shall come upon them, and let them grope in the noon-day even as in the night:
Job 5:15 and let them perish in war, and let the weak escape from the hand of the mighty.
Job 5:16 And let the weak have hope, but the mouth of the unjust be stopped.

Job 5:17 But blessed [is] the man whom the Lord has reproved; and reject not thou the chastening of the Almighty.
Job 5:18 for he causes [a man] to be in pain, and restores [him] again: he smites, and his hands heal.
Job 5:19 Six time he shall deliver thee out of distresses: and in the seventh harm shall not touch thee.
Job 5:20 In famine he shall deliver thee from death: and in war he shall free thee from the power of the sword.
Job 5:21 He shall hide thee from the scourge of the tongue: and thou shalt not be afraid of coming evils.

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Job 6:1 But Job answered and said,
Job 6:2 Oh that one would indeed weigh the wrath that is upon me, and take up my griefs in a balance together!
Job 6:3 And verily they would be heavier than the sand by the seashore: but, as it seems, my words are vain.
Job 6:4 For the arrows of the Lord are in my body, whose violence drinks up my blood: whenever I am going to speak, they pierce me.
Job 6:5 What then? will the wild ass bray for nothing, if he is not seeking food? or again, will the ox low at the manger, when he has a fodder?
Job 6:6 Shall bread be eaten without salt? or again, is there taste in empty words?
Job 6:7 For my wrath cannot cease; for I perceive my food as the smell of a lion [to be] loathsome.
Job 6:8 For oh that he would grant [my desire], and my petition might come, and the Lord would grant my hope!

Job 6:9 Let the Lord begin and wound me, but let him not utterly destroy me.
Job 6:10 Let the grave be my city, upon the walls of which I have leaped: I will not shrink from it; for I have not denied the holy words of my God.
Job 6:11 For what is my strength, that I continue? what is my time, that my soul endures?
Job 6:12 Is my strength the strength of stones? or is my flesh of brass?
Job 6:13 Or have I not trusted in him? but help is [far] from me.
Job 6:14 Mercy has rejected me; and the visitation of the Lord has disregarded me.
Job 6:15 My nearest relations have not regarded me; they have passed me by like a failing brook, or like a wave.
Job 6:16 They who used to reverence me, now have come against me like snow or congealed ice.
Job 6:17 When it has melted at the approach of heat, it is not known what it was.
Job 6:18 Thus I also have been deserted of all; and I am ruined, and become an outcast.

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Job 7:1 Is not the life of man upon earth a state of trial? and his existence as that of a hireling by the day?
Job 7:2 Or as a servant that fears his master, and one who has grasped a shadow? or as a hireling waiting for his pay?
Job 7:3 So have I also endured months of vanity, and nights of pain have been appointed me.
Job 7:4 Whenever I lie down, I say, When [will it be] day? and whenever I rise up, again [I say] when [will it be] evening? and I am full of pains from evening to morning.
Job 7:5 And my body is covered with loathsome worms; and I waste away, scraping off clods of dust from my eruption.
Job 7:6 And my life is lighter than a word, and has perished in vain hope.
Job 7:7 Remember then that my life is breath, and mine eye shalt not yet again see good.
Job 7:8 The eye of him that sees me shall not see me [again]: thine eyes are upon me, and I am no more.
Job 7:9 [I am] as a cloud that is cleared away from the sky: for if a man go down to the grave, he shall not come up again:
Job 7:10 and he shall surely not return to his own house, neither shall his place know him any more.
Job 7:11 Then neither will I refrain my mouth: I will speak being in distress; being in anguish I will disclose the bitterness of my soul.
Job 7:12 Am I a sea, or a serpent, that thou hast set a watch over me?

Job 7:16 For I shall not live for ever, that I should patiently endure: depart from me, for my life [is] vain.
Job 7:17 For what is man, that thou hast magnified him? or that thou givest heed to him?
Job 7:18 Wilt thou visit him till the morning, and judge him till [the time of] rest?
Job 7:19 How long dost thou not let me alone, nor let me go, until I shall swallow down my spittle?
Job 7:20 If I have sinned, what shall I be able to do, O thou that understandest the mind of men? why hast thou made me as thine accuser, and [why] am I a burden to thee?
Job 7:21 Why hast thou not forgotten my iniquity, and purged my sin? but now I shall depart to the earth; and in the morning I am no more.

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Job 8:3 Will the Lord be unjust when he judges; or will he that has made all things pervert justice?
Job 8:4 If thy sons have sinned before him, he has cast them away because of their transgression.
Job 8:5 But be thou early in prayer to the Lord Almighty.
Job 8:6 If thou art pure and true, he will hearken to thy supplication, and will restore to thee the habitation of righteousness.
Job 8:7 Though then thy beginning should be small, yet thy end should be unspeakably great.
Job 8:8 For ask of the former generation, and search diligently among the race of [our] fathers:
Job 8:9 (for we are of yesterday, and know nothing; for our life upon the earth is a shadow:)
Job 8:10 shall not these teach thee, and report [to thee], and bring out words from [their] heart?

Job 8:18 If [God] should destroy [him], his place shall deny him. Hast thou not seen such things,
Job 8:19 that such is the overthrow of the ungodly? and out of the earth another shall grow.
Job 8:20 For the Lord will by no means reject the harmless man; but he will not receive any gift of the ungodly.
Job 8:21 But he will fill with laughter the mouth of the sincere, and their lips with thanksgiving.
Job 8:22 But their adversaries shall clothe themselves with shame; and the habitation of the ungodly shall perish.

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Job 9:1 Then Job answered and said,
Job 9:2 I know of a truth that it is so: for how shall a mortal man be just before the Lord?
Job 9:3 For if he would enter into judgment with him, [God] would not hearken to him, so that he should answer to one of his charges of a thousand.
Job 9:4 For he is wise in mind, and mighty, and great: who has hardened himself against him and endured?
Job 9:5 Who wears out the mountains, and [men] know it not: who overturns them in anger.
Job 9:6 Who shakes the [earth] under heaven from its foundations, and its pillars totter.
Job 9:7 Who commands the sun, and it rises not; and he seals up the stars.
Job 9:8 Who alone has stretched out the heavens, and walks on the sea as on firm ground.
Job 9:9 Who makes Pleias, and Hesperus, and Arcturus, and the chambers of the south.
Job 9:10 Who does great and unsearchable things; glorious also and excellent things, innumerable.

Job 9:11 If ever he should go beyond me, I shall not see him: if he should pass by me, neither thus have I known [it].
Job 9:12 If he would take away, who shall turn him back? or who shall say to him, What hast thou done?
Job 9:13 For [if] he has turned away [his] anger, the whales under heaven have stooped under him.
Job 9:14 Oh then that he would hearken to me, or judge my cause.

Job 9:19 For indeed he is strong in power: who then shall resist his judgment?

Job 9:22 Wherefore I said, Wrath slays the great and mighty man.
Job 9:23 For the worthless die, but the righteous are laughed to scorn.
Job 9:24 For they are delivered into the hands of the unrighteous [man]: he covers the faces of the judges [of the earth]: but if it be not he, who is it?

Job 9:33 Would that [he] our mediator were [present], and a reprover, and one who should hear [the cause] between both.
Job 9:34 Let him remove [his] rod from me, and let not his fear terrify me:
Job 9:35 so shall I not be afraid, but I will speak: for I am not thus conscious [of guilt].

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Job 10:3 Is it good before thee if I be unrighteous? for thou hast disowned the work of thy hands, and attended to the counsel of the ungodly.
Job 10:4 Or dost thou see as a mortal sees? or wilt thou look as a man sees?
Job 10:5 Or is thy life human, or thy years [the years] of a man,
Job 10:6 that thou hast enquired into mine iniquity, and searched out my sins?
Job 10:7 For thou knowest that I have not committed iniquity: but who is he that can deliver out of thy hands?

Job 10:8 Thy hands have formed me and made me; afterwards thou didst change [thy mind], and smite me.
Job 10:9 Remember that thou hast made me [as] clay, and thou dost turn me again to earth.

Job 10:10 Hast thou not poured me out like milk, and curdled me like cheese?
Job 10:11 And thou didst clothe me with skin and flesh, and frame me with bones and sinews.
Job 10:12 And thou didst bestow upon me life and mercy, and thy oversight has preserved my spirit.
Job 10:13 Having these things in thyself, I know that thou canst do all things; for nothing is impossible with thee.

Job 10:14 And if I should sin, thou watchest me; and thou hast not cleared me from iniquity.
Job 10:15 Or if I should be ungodly, woe is me: and if I should be righteous, I cannot lift myself up, for I am full of dishonour.
Job 10:16 For I am hunted like a lion for slaughter; for again thou hast changed and art terribly destroying me;
Job 10:17 renewing against me my torture: and thou hast dealt with me in great anger, and thou hast brought trials upon me.

Job 10:20 Is not the time of my life short? suffer me to rest a little,
Job 10:21 before I go whence I shall not return, to a land of darkness and gloominess;
Job 10:22 to a land of perpetual darkness, where there is no light, neither [can any one] see the life of mortals.

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Job 11:5 But oh that the Lord would speak to thee, and open his lips to thee!
Job 11:6 Then shall he declare to thee the power of wisdom; for it shall be double of that which is with thee: and then shalt thou know, that a just recompence of thy sins has come to thee from the Lord.

Job 11:7 Wilt thou find out the traces of the Lord? or hast thou come to the end [of that] which the Almighty has made?
Job 11:8 Heaven [is] high; and what wilt thou do? and there are deeper things than those in hell; what dost thou know?
Job 11:9 Or longer than the measure of the earth, or the breadth of the sea.
Job 11:10 And if he should overthrow all things, who will say to him, What hast thou done?
Job 11:11 For he knows the works of transgressors; and when he sees wickedness, he will not overlook [it].

Job 11:12 But man vainly buoys himself up with words; and a mortal born of woman [is] like an ass in the desert.
Job 11:13 For if thou hast made thine heart pure, and liftest up [thine] hands towards him;
Job 11:14 if there is any iniquity in thy hands, put if far from thee, and let not unrighteousness lodge in thy habitation.
Job 11:15 For thus shall thy countenance shine again, as pure water; and thou shalt divest thyself of uncleanness, and shalt not fear.
Job 11:16 And thou shalt forget trouble, as a wave that has passed by; and thou shalt not be scared.
Job 11:17 And thy prayer [shall be] as the morning star, and life shall arise to thee [as] from the noonday.
Job 11:18 And thou shalt be confident, because thou hast hope; and peace shall dawn to thee from out of anxiety and care.
Job 11:19 For thou shalt be at ease, and there shall be no one to fight against thee; and many shall charge, and make supplication to thee.
Job 11:20 But safety shall fail them; for their hope is destruction, and the eyes of the ungodly shall waste away.

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Job 12:9 Who then has not known in all these things, that the hand of the Lord has made them?
Job 12:10 Whereas the life of all living things is in his hand, and the breath of every man.
Job 12:11 For the ear tries words, and the palate tastes meats.
Job 12:12 In length of time is wisdom, and in long life knowledge.

Job 12:13 With him are wisdom and power, with him counsel and understanding.
Job 12:14 If he should cast down, who will build up? if he should shut up against man, who shall open?
Job 12:15 If he should withhold the water, he will dry the earth: and if he should let it loose, he overthrows and destroys it.
Job 12:16 With him are strength and power: he has knowledge and understanding.
Job 12:17 He leads counsellors away captive, and maddens the judges of the earth.
Job 12:18 He seats kings upon thrones, and girds their loins with a girdle.
Job 12:19 He sends away priests into captivity, and overthrows the mighty ones of the earth.
Job 12:20 He changes the lips of the trusty, and he knows the understanding of the elders.
Job 12:21 He pours dishonour upon princes, and heals the lowly.
Job 12:22 Revealing deep things out of darkness: and he has brought into light the shadow of death.
Job 12:23 Causing the nations to wander, and destroying them: overthrowing the nations, and leading them [away].
Job 12:24 Perplexing the minds of the princes of the earth: and he causes them to wander in a way, they have not known, [saying],
Job 12:25 Let them grope [in] darkness, and [let there be] no light, and let them wander as a drunken man.

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Continues: Fragments from the Book of Job #2: chapters 12-20

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Bad things no punishment from God

Posted on June 14, 2011. Filed under: Environment and Ecology, Jehovah יהוה YHWH JHVH God Elohim Yahweh Jahweh, Jesus Christ Jeshua the Messiah Jahushua, News and Politics, Satan and Evil, Suffering, World | Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , |

All those bad things which come over this world is it
whether or not punishment from God?

This world is hit regularly by disasters.  Today we can see enough signs that we have come in the End Times as described in the Holy Scriptures.

In such a way coming difficulties over us are already notified in the Sacred Writings this not yet means that the one who has let this write down is also the responsible of what comes over us.

Chernobyl disaster

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God has created men, but this creation has turned itself against its maker.  For this wrong the designer has not hangerd himself in that extent that He destroyed His Creation.  On the contrary He has out of His goodness given that men the chance to take care of this world and of himself. He received the allowance to do it as he wanted it, he got a free wil. With the consequence that that man has made of it not many soups.  One attempt after the other layman failed.  With traps, falling down and standing up again, man stayed laymen and did not seem to learn from his experiences. Man wanted to repeat the many things his predecessor did even when it was done wrong.  He did always the same mistakes. At the sideline God looked and followed closely and came in to help where it really was necessarily .  For the rest, He wanted to let go the man his own course.

That freedom that the man has gotten he took not always in thanks.  Regularly he went  even so far to reproach God and to make Him guilty for particular things for which the man actually was responsible himself.  Only how eager does not  want the man to find  a scapegoat.  To give some one else the debt for the wrong things done or overcome to oneself is the easiest thing. Man preferred to give the guilt to somebody else and therefore created someone else like the figures of a Devil, Fallen Angel, Satan and a Lucifer.  Each adversary of God became now the responsible person himself but got portrayed on a kind of super specimen, a sort ghost, the devil, a fallen angel.  That ‘person’ seemed to be the ‘bogeyman’  they remained to accuse the Creator for punishing them.

Every time as man got something awful over him he became angry and pointed still with the finger to God.  Even through not religiously.  For in disaster men suddenly get to know God and hurry to accuse this God once more.

Only is that true that God is the one who is responsible for all those bad things which come over humanity? Is He really the responsible for the lot of sorrow that comes over us?

We don’t think so.  We believe not in a pitiless relentless God that enjoys the pains of others or delights in suffering men.  As each parent wants to be good for his children so does God. As every parent who sees that his beloved children have done something wrong he perhaps reprimands them but does not want to harm them. A good parent does not find joy in the pain of his children. God loves to take care of His children and fully loves them and therefore wants to give them as many as possible good things, not wanting bad things coming over them.  God is a soothing Father and is not on eager to see His children to furnish with suffering.  But He has given them well freedom to go their own course.  And in that they must carry the consequences of their own choices.

If there is a vehicle which runs over some one, this would not be a punishment from God for that victim. It also would not be the fault of the car, but is one consequence of either carelessness of the driver or through a mistake of one of the two or more concerned.
Also by a mud stream or landslide, when several men or taken with the flood on its devastating path, it would not be something that is part of God’s actions, but mostly it lies at the neighbours self that the region has been deforested and that men took away the possibility for the roots to hold the ground together.
This are only two examples, but one can find many more like this to show that the cause of lots of problems does not lie by God but comes from men himself. Many things that come over man are the boomerang that comes back at him. lt are the results from misdeeds man has done. lt then comes from his or other men’s step in the wrong place and for which they now get the bill.

We our self are responsible for the acts that we bring into effect. We have to bear the responsibility our self.  Our attitude towards nature and fellow man shall be a deciding factor for what happens next to this nature or to the inhabitants.  Our actions in this nature are going to be decisive for what is going to happen next. For this many persons close their eyes and are not interested in what shall happen in the far future. It does not seem to concern them, why should they bother?  When we go about uncareful with the natural sources it can well be that we use them up and that they shall all be gone for for our descendants. They no longer shall be able to make use of those basic products because our fault, not theirs and not as penalty from God.  Many animals we so massacred , many plants have disappeared because of men’s actions.  We have so many thoughtless deeds and go so rash with mother earth. So we all have to face this earth and the foolishness of its inhabitants.  We go around so impetuous with mother nature and this shall have its repercussions on the next generations.  We cannot remain to do this just with impunity.

Each for himself will have to constitute which way he or she on wants to go.  Everybody shall have to carry then the responsibility also for him or herself.  It goes not up to give the debt on someone else.

We are guest, vassal or liege on this earth.  We got it in loan from the Creator.  It is not Him who taps us on the fingers when we do something wrong.  It is usual the repercussion of our actions.  The consequences of our acts.  Therefore is it so important that we should be very conscious of what we all do and of the consequences that that can have not only for ourselves but also for others.  For what we do ourself not always has consequences just for ourself.  It can have also consequences for others.

Therefore must we make work of it so that everybody shall come to live more according to rules that are in line with the Will of God.  In such a way that those who are not willing to choose for God will get by the striving from others to be able to live as well in a better world, more in accordance with the Will of God.

In case more men treat nature respectful and go around carefully with basis materials there will on that straight also happen less misfortunes or less disasters, so less harm and pain shall come over men, and they also will not accuse God undeservedly of a punishments act.  In this fast evolving society we cannot go along further unthoughtful as men did so often. We may not miss the fast train.  It becomes high time that we consider good what we want but also what we can do and really work out who is responsible when somewhat goes wrong.

20 feet debris spreads over small Japanese valley from the sea to the hillsides above, 2011 earthquake

We will therefore however may not look next to what happened in history. We shall have to face it that several times the man himself is the cause is of his misfortune.  Other things also do come over him. And it surely  is not always originating by men. Nature disasters just can happen. But one must not go to live in flood areas, or lay swamps dry to establish oneself there.  The man must ask the question what he can and shall do with nature.  How he can go around with it but also how he can foresee to it that he and those after him shall be able to make further use of it.  The environment matters to every inhabitant of this planet.  And one may not think only for his own spot.  One must also work out how we can go around with our life and what the consequences may be for them that also live further away.

For everything the man wants to do he will have to think deeply and must consider good what the consequences or risks can be of his acts.  As he will be able to save himself and many others a lot of sorrow.  As well there will then later be less reason for God to come forwards with punishments.  For yes, there will certainly punishment distributed, also by God.  Only it is not yet  the time for it here in this age in Gods Plan.

Now God let the man court. Man can still go his own way but since the coming of Jesus (Yeshua) this Nazarene man comes up as the Saviour, the Christ, the Messiah.  God has accepted his kiss offering and must have no other offerings anymore.  As He demands then no offerings any more each dead person is there one too much for Him.

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How we can go around with our responsibility and why that is so important you can read further in the articles below :

Japan’s nuclear disaster reason to think twice

A risk taking society

Securing risks

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In Dutch you can find:

Wij zijn zelf verantwoordelijk

Nucleaire ramp in Japan doet mensen twee maal nadenken

Energie met vergiftigd geschenk

Nemen van Risico door de maatschappij

Read also: Seems no future in suffering

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