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Jesus begotten Son of God #14 Beloved Preminent Son and Mediator originating in Mary
Previously we saw how Jesus came into life by becoming implanted into the womb, special way, in the human being Miryam/Mary.
“18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ took place under these circumstances: When His mother Mary had been promised in marriage to Joseph, before they came together, she was found to be pregnant [through the power] of the Holy Spirit.
19 And her [promised] husband Joseph, being a just and upright man and not willing to expose her publicly and to shame and disgrace her, decided to repudiate and dismiss (divorce) her quietly and secretly.
20 But as he was thinking this over, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, Joseph, descendant of David, do not be afraid to take Mary [as] your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of (from, out of) the Holy Spirit.
21 She will bear a Son, and you shall call His name Jesus [the Greek form of the Hebrew Joshua, which means Savior], for He will save His people from their sins [that is, prevent them from [a: Marvin Vincent, Word Studies in the New Testament.] failing and missing the true end and scope of life, which is God].
22 All this took place that it might be fulfilled which the Lord had spoken through the prophet,
23 Behold, the virgin shall become pregnant and give birth to a Son, and they shall call His name Emmanuel — which, when translated, means, God with us. (A #Isa 7:14)
24 Then Joseph, being aroused from his sleep, did as the angel of the Lord had commanded him: he took [her to his side as] his wife. ” (Matthew 1:18-24 Amplified 1987 Frances Siewert Bible)
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The Anointed begotten Son of God
33. Mediator
The Messiah, our only man mediator and Saviour, is to be defined first by Matthew and Luke and then by Paul in 1 Timothy 2:5, and then only later by John, and not in a way which pits New Testament book against book and results in confusion and disunity, excommunication, even murder!
“For there is one Elohim,1 and one Mediator between Elohim and men, the Man Messiah יהושע, {Footnote: 11 Cor. 8:6, Eph. 4:6, Mk. 12:29-34.} “ (1 Timothy 2:5 The Scriptures 1998+)
“But to us \@there is but\@ one God, the Father, of whom \@are\@ all things, and we in him; and one Lord Yahshua the Messiah, by whom \@are\@ all things, and we by him.” (1 Corinthians 8:6 KJBPNV)
“You have been shown it, to know that יהוהHimself is Elohim; there is no one beside Him. “ (Deuteronomy 4:35 The Scriptures 1998+)
“And you shall know today, and shall recall to your heart that יהוה Himself is Elohim in the heavens above and on the earth beneath; there is none else. “ (Deuteronomy 4:39 The Scriptures 1998+)
“one Elohim and Father of all,1 who is above all, and through all, and in you all. {Footnote: 1Mk. 12:32,34, 1 Cor. 8:6, 1 Tim. 2:5, Mk. 12:29-34.} “ (Ephesians 4:6 The Scriptures 1998+)
It is not Jesus who is the Father but Jehovah is, and He is also above Jesus, who said to his apostles: ““You heard that I said to you, ‘I am going away and I am coming to you.’ If you did love Me, you would have rejoiced that I said, ‘I am going to the Father,’ for My Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28 The Scriptures 1998+)
“And I wish you to know that the head of every man is the Messiah, and the head of woman is the man, and the head of Messiah is Elohim.” (1 Corinthians 11:3 The Scriptures 1998+)
Therefore let us do not forget: “for God is one; {#de 6:4} and there is but one mediator between God and humanity, Yeshua the Messiah, himself human,” (1 Timothy 2:5 CJB)
And as a human he had a beginning and found his end of his life in his dead on the stake[1]. “the Messiah redeemed us from the curse pronounced in the \@torah\@ by becoming cursed on our behalf; for the \@Tanakh\@ says, “everyone who hangs from a stake comes under a curse.” {#de 21:22-23}” (Galatians 3:13 CJB)
Jesus did not come out of a sort of a simulated death. He was taken out of death by his Father. It was the God of our fathers who rose up Jesus, whom was murdered by hanging upon a piece of wood [2].
“The Elohim of our fathers raised up יהושע whom you laid hands on, hanging Him on a timber.” (Acts 5:30 The Scriptures 1998+)
34. Preeminent Son
Jesus is thus also God’s “preeminent Son,” “firstborn and brought into the world” by special procreation.
Albrecht notes, referring to the copious research of Theodore Zahn: “I am following here in John 1:13 [3]an extremely old reading found in Irenaeus and Tertullian.
The singular verb ‘was begotten’ [aorist again of gennao] referring to Jesus, not believers, prevailed in texts from the second to the fourth century in the West, and left important traces in the East also. John confesses expressly here his belief in the virginal begetting and birth of Jesus, which Matthew and Luke describe in much more detail” (Albrecht, note on his translation of John 1:13, Anthony Buzzard’s translation of the German).
The Jerusalem Bible adopts this reading also. Tertullian actually accuses the Gnostics of trying to rid Scripture of this evidence of the virginal begetting — by diverting the reference from Jesus to Christian rebirth! This meant changing the verb from an original singular to a plural.[4]
35. The beloved son
Luke presents Jesus as Son of God related to God in a parallel fashion to Adam (Luke 3:38)[5] and shows us on other occasions that his and our Father considered Jesus as His son. At the baptism of his nephew John the Baptist heard the voice, like all the people around that place at the Jordan, and saw a bodily form (sōmatikōi eidei) or the dove giving sound of the voice of the Divine Spirit (pneuma theou).
“And having been immersed, יהושע went up immediately from the water, and see, the heavens were opened, and He saw the Spirit of Elohim descending like a dove and coming upon Him, and see, a voice out of the heavens, saying, “This is My Son, the Beloved, in whom I did delight.” “ (Matthew 3:16-17 The Scriptures 1998+)
And a voice came out of the heavens, “You are My Son, the Beloved, in whom I did delight.” (Mark 1:11 The Scriptures 1998+)
““See, My Servant whom I have chosen, My Beloved in whom My being did delight. I shall put My Spirit upon Him, and He shall declare right-ruling to the nations. “He shall not strive nor cry out, nor shall anyone hear His voice in the streets. “A crushed reed He shall not break, and smoking flax He shall not quench, till He brings forth right-ruling forever.1 {Footnote: 1This is according to the Shem-Tob Hebrew text. However, this passage is a quote from Isa. 42:1-3 where it reads right-ruling unto truth.} “And the nations shall trust in His Name.” Then they brought to Him one who was demon-possessed, blind and dumb. And He healed him, so that the blind and dumb man both spoke and saw. And all the crowds were amazed and said, “Is this the Son of Dawiḏ?” “ (Matthew 12:18-23 The Scriptures 1998+)
“And see, Mosheh and Ěliyahu appeared to them, talking with Him. And Kĕpha answering, said to יהושע, “Master, it is good for us to be here. If You wish, let us make here three booths: one for You, one for Mosheh, and one for Ěliyahu.”1 {Footnote:1Mark 9:4.} While he was still speaking, see, a bright cloud overshadowed them. And see, a voice came out of the cloud, saying, “This is My Son, the Beloved, in whom I did delight. Hear Him!” And when the taught ones heard, they fell on their faces and were much afraid. “ (Matthew 17:3-6 The Scriptures 1998+)
“And it came to be, as they were parting from Him, Kĕpha said to יהושע, “Master, it is good for us to be here. And let us make three booths: one for You, and one for Mosheh, and one for Ěliyahu,” not knowing what he said. And as he was saying this, a cloud came and overshadowed them. And they were afraid as they entered the cloud. And a voice came out of the cloud, saying, “This is My Son, the Beloved. Hear Him!” And when the voice had spoken, יהושע was found alone. And they were silent, and reported to no one in those days any of what they had seen.” (Luke 9:33-36 The Scriptures 1998+)
Those writings from the apostles should made it clear that we got a child in a family who was given a special place in the heart of the Creator, because it was a righteous child willing to take up the command of its Father and therefore receiving the esteem, honour and glory, more than anybody else. So it was Gods voice from the grandeur of the sh’khinah, the magnificent glory, which let us know that Jesus, resplendent with light from God the Father, was His beloved son.[6]
“For when He received respect and esteem from Elohim the Father, such a voice came to Him from the Excellent Esteem, “This is My Son, the Beloved in whom I did delight.” And we heard this voice which came from heaven when we were with Him on the set-apart mountain. And we have the prophetic word made more certain, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts, knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture came to be of one’s own interpretation, for prophecy never came by the desire of man, but men of Elohim spoke, being moved by the Set-apart Spirit.” (2 Peter 1:17-21 The Scriptures 1998+)
The attentive reader of Scripture will hear echoes of Israel as Son of God (Exodus 4:22; Hosea 11:1) and Davidic kings (Psalm. 2). Like Israel before him, Jesus, the Son of God, goes through water to begin his spiritual journey (Luke 3:21; cp. Exodus 14, 15). In the wilderness and under trial Jesus proves himself to be the obedient Son unlike Israel who failed in the wilderness (Exodus 14-17; 32-34; Numeri 11).
36. Originating in Mary
From the nativity story to the story of the beginning of Jesus ‘public life we see the line of the human link and often we also shall get to see the fragility of the Master Teacher, who sometimes got tired of the human crowd around him.
The whole story is ruined if another dimension is added to the story, namely that the Son of God was already a pre-existing member of an eternal Trinity. Gabriel has carefully defined the nature of Jesus’ Sonship and his words exclude any origin other than a supernatural origin in Mary.Gabriel’s Jesus, Son of God — the biblical Son — originates in Mary. He is conceived and begotten by miracle. In pre-existence Christology, the main plank of Trinitarianism, a conception/begetting in Mary’s womb does not bring about the existence of God’s Son. According to Gabriel it does. Neither Gabriel nor Luke could possibly have been Trinitarians.
No need for centuries of complex wrangling over words. All that is required is belief of the angelic communication: “For this reason precisely (dio kai) — the creative miracle of God through His divine power — the child will be Son of God.” For no other reason, for this reason only. (Note the very watered-down rendering of the NIV, “so the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.”)
[1] “The Messiah has redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed \@is\@ every one that hangs on a tree:” (Galatians 3:13 KJBPNV)
“his body is not to remain all night on the tree, but you must bury him the same day, because a person who has been hanged has been cursed by god—so that you will not defile your land, which \@ADONAI\@ your god is giving you to inherit.” (Deuteronomy 21:23 CJB)
[2] “The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.” (Acts 5:30 KJ21)
[3] “12 But to all who did receive him, *x12.1 who believed in his name, *x12.2 he gave the right *x12.3 to become *x12.4 children of God, 13 who *x13.1 were born, *x13.2 not of blood *x13.3 nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God. “ (John 1:12-13 ESV)
[4] Anthony Buzzard, editor of Focus on the Kingdom writes in” Jesus’ Long-Form Birth Certificate Released by Luke and Matthew (and John), 2000 years ago, and Recorded in Scripture” (June 2011)
[5] “the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.” (Luke 3:38 NIV)
[6] “for we were there when he received honor and glory from god the father; and the voice came to him from the grandeur of the \@sh’khinah\@, saying, “this is my son, whom I love; I am well pleased with him!”” (2 Peter 1:17 CJB)
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Preceding article: Jesus begotten Son of God #13 Pre-existence excluding virginal birth of the Only One Transposed
To be continued: 36. Originating in Mary + 37. Son of the Most High + 38. The Prophet to be heard
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Jesus begotten Son of God #13 Pre-existence excluding virginal birth of the Only One Transposed
The Anointed begotten Son of God
29. The only one
Though Jesus came into life by becoming into the womb, and getting onto the world by getting out of the womb of the human being Miryam/Mary he was implanted in her in a special way. You could compare it with fertilisation by insemination by the Holy Spirit.
When there took place a fertilisation there would have been a conception, fecundation or syngamy. As fertilisation is the fusion of gametes to produce a new organism in Marya new organism was created by the Holy Spirit.Because by Mary there was no process involving the fusion of an ovum with a sperm, which eventually leads to the development of an embryo it was an exceptional conceivement. For Mary it was her first child. Afterwards she got some other kids from a normal contact with her then husband Joseph with whom she according one of the Laws of God reproduced.
‘Conception’ is used by some to refer to implantation and is thus a subject of semantic arguments about the beginning of pregnancy, typically in the context of the abortion debate. With Mary there was a conception, an implantation by the Holy Spirit or “by the Working of God”, a conceivement
Remarkably there is the confirmation of the virginal begetting in John 1:13, if we read the Jerusalem Bible and translations like Albrecht’s German rendering of the Greek in 1920. The issue is the singular aorist verb here (egenneethee).
“not because of bloodline, physical impulse or human intention, but because of god.” (John 1:13 CJB)
„13 Nicht aus Geblüt der Menschen, auch nicht aus Fleischestrieb und Manneswillen, vielmehr durch Gottes Wirksamkeit ward er gezeugt.*n13.1 „ (John 1:13 Albr)
If that text is original, then it is the singular Son of God who “was begotten, not of the will of the flesh or male desire, but of God.” It is surely rather labored and strange to contrast our “rebirth” with the birth by male desire, flesh, etc. Much more natural is an easy reference to the virginal begetting of Jesus. He is then the uniquely begotten Son (monogenes) precisely because that is what he really was, uniquely brought into existence as Son.
“no one has ever seen god; but the only and unique son, who is identical with god and is at the father’s side—he has made him known.” (John 1:18 CJB)
If the conceived one in Mary is Jeshua or Jesus, he is the uniquely begotten one who could be identical with “God” because he was partly from God and partly from a human being, Mary. Being implanted by God he would be a very special person and between the many gods of the world he could receive a special position as a “god”, but that is not the same as being God, making two Gods. Being created in a special way Jesus became the highest form of created being, as Hort noted in his long dissertation on that verse.
By the Word of God, God His son as the only brought-forth Son, is to be made known to the world.
“No one has seen God at any time. The only-begotten [or, unique] Son, the One in the bosom of the Father, that One explained [Him] [or, made [Him] known]. “ (John 1:18 ALT)
30. Pre-existence and virginal birth exclude each other
Virgin Mary and infant Jesus on wall and dove of Holy Spirit and pagan symbols of the four Evangelists on ceiling – Italian Chapel, Lamb Holm, Orkney, Scotland
It was Harnack who observed that “pre-existence and virginal birth self-evidently exclude each other” (schliessen sich aus).
There is more. In the LXX of Psalm 110:3 we read the same “Today I have begotten you,” in the ruling Messianic psalm which controls the thinking of the New Testament. Psalm 110:1 is quoted massively more than any other verse from the Hebrew Bible.
“יהוה said to my Master, “Sit at My right hand, Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet.” יהוה sends Your mighty sceptre out of Tsiyon. Rule in the midst of Your enemies! Your people volunteer in the day of Your might, In the splendours of set-apartness! From the womb, from the morning, You have the dew of Your youth! יהוה has sworn and does not relent, “You are a priest forever According to the order of Malkitseḏeq.” יהוה at Your right hand Shall smite sovereigns in the day of His wrath. “ (Psalms 110:1-5 The Scriptures 1998+)
“Jehovah will {1} send forth the {2} rod of thy strength out of Zion: Rule thou in the midst of thine enemies. {1) Or [stretch] 2) Or [sceptre]} Thy people {1} offer themselves willingly In the day of thy {2} power, {3} in holy array: Out of the womb of the morning {4} Thou hast the dew of thy youth. {1) Heb [are freewill-offerings] 2) Or [army] 3) Or [in the beauty of holiness] 4) Or [Thy youth are to thee] as [the dew]}” (Psalms 110:2-3 ASV)
It is out of the womb that the sending of the promised one shall come.
The rod of David’s strength shall be send out of Zion and “more than the womb of the morning”[1] Messiah shall come to sit at YHVH the Only One God Jehovah’s right hand until his enemies are subjected to him.
That Son of God is the one begotten by the Father in the LXX of verse 3. Though the Masoretic text has repointed the Hebrew to read “your youth” (yaldutecha) many Hebrew manuscripts and the Hebrew version read by Origen read “I have begotten you” (yeliditicha), exactly as in Psalm 2:7 “I have begotten you.” (All this is just like substituting “shipping” for “shopping” “skyping” for “scoping.”)
““I inscribe for a law: יהוה has said to Me, ‘You are My Son, Today I have brought You forth. “ (Psalms 2:7 The Scriptures 1998+)
Psalm 2:7 indicating that the person is “brought forth” or “birthed”[2] is clearly key as is 2 Samuel 7:14, not to mention Isaiah 7:14: “To us [in Israel] has been born or begotten a Son.”
“I will declare shall scribe the decree statute : the LORD Yah Veh hath said unto me, Thou art my Son Ben * ; this day have I begotten birthed thee. {*Ben: cp 2:12 } (Psalms 2:7 ERRB)
“I will shall be his for him, father, and he shall be my for me, son. If he commit iniquity pervert , I will chasten shall reprove him with the rod scion of men, and with the stripes plagues of the children sons of men humanity : “ (2 Samuel 7:14 ERRB)
“Therefore the Lord Adonay himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear birth a son, and shall call his name Immanuel Immanu El . “ (Isaiah 7:14 ERRB)
And in Hebrews 7:14 we know that our Lord is “descended from Judah.”
“For it is evident hath been preevidenced that our Lord sprang Adonay rose out of Juda Yah Hudah ; of unto which tribe scion Moses Mosheh spake nothing naught concerning priesthood. {Genesis 49:8, 10 } “ (Hebrews 7:14 ERRB)
In three groups of 14’s Matthew (ch. 1) lays out the complete family history of the Son of God, who later as “ideal Israel” is called out of Egypt (2:15). Jesus then gives us, as the ideal Moses, the five blocks of New Covenant teaching, each ending with the “chorus” “when Jesus had finished all these words.”
How could anyone imagine “God the Son” being the promised “prophet arising as one like Moses and from the family of Israel” (Deut. 18:15-18)? Israel had asked not to hear God speak directly to them, and God conceded. How bizarre if then a “GOD the Son” spoke to them having abandoned a life of eternity in heaven to walk on earth with an “impersonal human nature.”
32. Transposed into Eternity
In case God incarnated in the foetus of Mary it was somebody who was and has always been who came out of Mary. This would mean that that Jesus was also eternal, in case he did not die. God can not die, being a spirit, so that comes in conflict with lots of Christian dogmatic teaching. Muslims on the other hand do not accept such an incarnation, accept Jesus as a prophetbut not as a son of God, and denied that he died. So for them Jesus had a beginning but no end.Normally in English “to die” means to become deceased or coming in a state of no longer living; being dead. The traditional believe is also that you can only die once and then you shall departure from life and be a dead person.
When a person is dead he or she will not endowed any more with life; and would be inanimate.
In case Jesus died on the cross he would have been dead: deceased, extinct, lifeless, and therefore would not have or appear to have life. Though we know that God cannot die, so when he was in Jesus when did he get out of in and who let He die? Did suddenly change the body of the God into a body of a poor man? According the Muslims the person Jeshua was interchanged for somebody else. But in the Bible this is no where recorded.
Jesus did not fake his death on the wooden stake and really came to an end, so was not eternal.
The birth date as well as the begetting of the Son of God ought never to have been transposed out of history and time into the philosophical, misty “times” of eternity.
The notion of an “eternal begetting” by which, as one church father said, the Son “had a beginningless beginning” ought to have been silenced, and Scripture allowed to speak to us all.
One architect of the Trinity admitted that the Trinity is a compromise between Jewish monotheism and pagan polytheism (Gregory of Nyssa), combining the best of two worlds! This leads people to read Philippians 2 as if Paul was on board with the Trinity of which he had never heard. Jesus was not “in very nature God” (NIV) but “in the form of God,” as God’s visible image, his glory, as the unique Son. The Son’s glory or appearance, visible, was the reflection of the One God, his Father, the God of Israel, God of gods and of the creation. As that matchless human Son, Jesus did not exploit his amazing status but worked for our good, resisting the Devil and performing perfectly as a servant leader.
That is why he has been elevated to the position of ADONI, my lord (Ps. 110:1; adoni is in all 195 occurrences a non-Deity title), at the right hand of YHVH, the One God. If Jesus were GOD in the first place then his achievement and elevation is really a charade. It is what God has done and can do with a fully dedicated human being that should make us catch our breath.
[1] “Thy people [shall be] willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth. {from…: or, more than the womb of the morning: thou shalt have, etc}” (Psalms 110:3 AVRLE)
[2] I scribe the statute! Yah Veh says to me, You are my Son/Ben*; this day I birthed you. {*Ben; cp 2:12 } “ (Psalms 2:7 ECB)
Note: Many Christians believe Jesus was incarnated by the the act of grace whereby Christ took our human nature into union with his Divine Person and became man, supposed to God becoming God Man. Those Christians believe Christ is both God and man but can not explain how it was possible that the people who saw Christ Jesus did not die when they saw him, because everybody who sees God dies (Exodus 33:20).
And יהוה said to Mosheh, “Even this word you have spoken I shall do, for you have found favour in My eyes, and I know you by name.” Then he said, “Please, show me Your esteem.” And He said, “I shall cause all My goodness to pass before you, and I shall proclaim the Name of יהוה before you. And I shall favour him whom I favour, and shall have compassion on him whom I have compassion.” But He said, “You are unable to see My face, for no man does see Me and live.” And יהוה said, “See, there is a place with Me! And you shall stand on the rock. “And it shall be, while My esteem passes by, that I shall put you in the cleft of the rock and cover you with My hand while I pass by. “Then I shall take away My hand and you shall see My back, but My face shall not be seen.”
(Exodus 33:17-23 The Scriptures 1998+)
According to the Trinitarians they take Jesus as ‘the divine God’ which is not exactly the same as ‘a divine person’ united to a human nature (Acts 20:28; Rom. 8:32; 1 Cor. 2:8; Hebrews 2:11-14; 1 Tim. 3:16; Gal. 4:4, etc.).
About the divinity Allon Maxwell says in Good-News Jesus among the partisans:” Of course mainstream theology attributes the sinless obedience of Jesus to the superior moral attributes of his alleged “divinity”. But think about it. That amounts to a serious a slander against the justice of God! What justice would there be in a God who condemned humans who were born unable to obey because of their lack of divinity? How could one ever truly love a God like that?”
We are not divine, but we can strive to get more divine. Daily we can work on our character to become a better person.
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Preceding article: Jesus begotten Son of God #12 Son of God
To be continued: 33. Mediator + 34. Preeminent Son + 35. The beloved son
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Read also:
- Around pre-existence of Christ
- Preexistence in the Divine purpose and Trinity
- Pre-existence of Christ #1 Look #2 Jesus in the Old Testament
- Pre-existence of Christ #1 Intro #4 Jesus – His Parents #2 Difference
- Can God become flesh? Kan God vlees worden?
- “Son of God” – “God the Son”
- Jesus was the son of “The Father” in the fullest sense as he said on numerous occasions. + We are not divine, but we can strive to get more divine. Daily we can work on our character to become a better person. > Good-News Jesus among the partisans
- Who is Jesus Christ? #1 What does the Bible say
- Dying or not
- Immortality, eternality – onsterfelijkheid, eeuwigheid
- Christian thought: acknowledge that Jesus is the Son of God
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- Colossians 1:15-20: Preexistence or Preeminence? by William Wachtel
- The Nature of Preexistence in the New Testament or Preexistensens natur i Nya testamentet (Swedish)
- Who Is Jesus? God, or Unique Man? or Wie is Jesus? God, of Unieke Mens? (Afrikaans)
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In Dutch:
- voorbestaan-jezus
- 18 Redenen dat Jezus niet God is.
- Redenen dat Jezus niet God is
- Afstraling van Gods heerlijkheid
- Hij die zit aan de rechterhand van Zijn Vader
- Zoon van God
- Hij die gezonden is naar de aarde
- Jezus Christus is in het vlees gekomen
- Christus Jezus: de zoon van God
- Jezus van Nazareth #1 Jezus Geboorte
- Jezus van Nazareth #2 De zoon van Maria
- Jezus van Nazareth #3 De Zoon van God
- Niet goddelijkheid van Christus toch
- Hij is de Zoon van God
- Onsterfelijkheid
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Several prophesies were given in the Old Testament. A prophesy is something which is still going to happen. It does not about something what had happened in the past. - Jesus begotten Son of God #9 Two millennia ago conceived or begotten (christadelphians.wordpress.com)
According to Chambers dictionary ‘to conceive’ is to receive into or form in the womb: to form in the mind: to imagine or think: to understand: to grasp as a concept to express: to become pregnant. - Jesus begotten Son of God #8 Found Divinely Created not Incarnated (christadelphians.wordpress.com)
The Son of God of Gabriel’s announcement is none other than a divinely created Son of God, coming into existence — begotten — as Son in his mother’s womb. All other claimants to divine Sonship and Messiahship may safely be discounted.
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God has not implanted himself in a human being. Perhaps you could say He did bring over a spark of this spirit, or immortal divinity, in a foetus through its mother. As God had created the first man he now could bring in to the woman Many elements which would bring into live a new human being, a second Adam, created as a fleshly likeness of his Creator, who is a spirit being, but that still would not make that Adam the same as its Creator. Nor would be any conceived child the same as his or her father or mother. - Jesus begotten Son of God #10 Coming down spirit or flesh seed of Eve (christadelphians.wordpress.com)
Pre-human of course implies, if you think about it, non-human. And the whole point of the Messiah, Son of God, is that he is and must be a man, “the man mediator” of the lucidly clear statement of Paul in 1 Timothy 2:5: “There is one God, and one mediator between God and man, the man Messiah Jesus,” the second Adam. - Jesus begotten Son of God #11 Existence and Genesis Raising up (christadelphians.wordpress.com)
Jesus is thus son of Eve, of Abraham, of David, of Mary and at the same time of God. As Adam was also the Son of God by divine miracle and creation (Luke 3:38), so is Jesus Son of God. “God the Son” is out of the question at once, since the only and mortal Son of God, Messiah, was “brought into existence” some 2000 years ago, at a definite and predicted geographical location. - On the Nature of Christ (christadelphians.wordpress.com)
The testimonies which teach the indivisible unity of the Deity, as the One Father, out of whom ALL things have proceeded, and who is supreme above all, even above Christ (I Cor. 11:3), are inconsistent with the Trinitarian representation of God. The supremacy and unity of the Father would not be affirmable if there were three co-equal personalities in His One personality—a doctrine which presents us with a contradiction in terms as well as in sense. - The Seed Of The Woman Bruised (christadelphians.wordpress.com)
Jesus, who was the only begotten of the Father full of grace and truth” (John 1:14), received strength that enabled him to render sinless obedience to the requirements of his Father, and manifest a character which reflected the Divine image (1 Peter2:21–24).This was necessary for the work of redemption, so that it is not solely the work of Christ, but that of the Father and the Son acting in conjunction one with the other. The Bible teaches: “God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself” (2 Cor. 5:19). Jesus leaned heavily upon the Father, and God strengthened him, with the result that the fullness of the Divine character was revealed in a human body, that inherited the consequences of the first sin.
Jesus begotten Son of God #12 Son of God
The Anointed begotten Son of God
28. Son of God
In Hebrews 1:5ff three corroborating proof texts take us to the origin of the Son. 2 Samuel 7:14 reinforces Psalm 2:7 and speaks of the moment when God becomes the Father of Jesus the Son (“I will be his father and he will my son”). This is equally the moment when Jesus comes into the world, is brought into the world, i.e. is born.
“For to which of the messengers did He ever say, “You are My Son, today I have brought You forth”?1 And again, “I shall be to Him a Father, and He shall be to Me a Son”?2 {Footnotes: 1Ps. 2:7. 22 Sa. 7:14.} And when He again brings the first-born into the world, He says, “Let all the messengers of Elohim do reverence to Him.” And of the messengers indeed He says, “… who is making His messengers spirits and His servants a flame of fire.” But to the Son He says, “Your throne, O Elohim, is forever and ever, a sceptre of straightness is the sceptre of Your reign. “You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness. Because of this, Elohim, Your Elohim, has anointed You with the oil of gladness more than Your companions.” “ (Hebrews 1:5-9 The Scriptures 1998+)
““I inscribe for a law: יהוה has said to Me, ‘You are My Son, Today I have brought You forth. “ (Psalms 2:7 The Scriptures 1998+)
““I am to be his Father, and he is My son. If he does perversely, I shall reprove him with the rod of men and with the blows of the sons of men.” (2 Samuel 7:14 The Scriptures 1998+)
In the New Testament we do find written down that Jesus spoke of his own coming into the world (“to this end I was born,” see John 18:37) and we know when that was. He was made holy and sent into the world (John 10:36), which is an echo of Gabriel in Luke. “The one begotten (brought into existence) holy will be the Son of God.”
“Then Pilate said to Him, “So then, You are a king?” Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. For this [reason] I have been born, and for this [reason] I have come into the world, so that I should testify to the truth. Every [one] being of the truth hears My voice.” “ (John 18:37 ALT)
Jesus is been born and as for any other being that has been born he came into existence and came into the world.
And it occurred, when all the people were baptized, that Yeshua/Jesus also was baptized. And as he prayed, the heavens were opened; and the Holy Spirit descended upon him, in the bodily likeness of a dove: and there was a voice from heaven, which said: “You are my beloved Son, in whom I have delight.” And Yeshua was about thirty years old. Then the New Testament gives us his family tree and lets us know that he was accounted the son of Yoseph/Joseph, who was the son of Heli, and in that lineage we could fine Levi and the prophets Amos, Nahum, several Yudahs/Juda, Yosephs, Nathan, the son of David, son of Boaz, son of Salmon, to come by the son of Yitzchak/Isaac, son of Avraham/Abraham/Aram, son of Terach/Thara, via the son of Shem, son of Noakh/Noach/Noah/Noe, son of Lamech, to the son of Methuselah/Mathusala, son of Enokh/Enoch, to come to the son of Yared/Jared, son of Mehalaleel/Maleleel, the son of Cainan, the son of Enos, so to the son of Seth, son of Adam, the son of Alaha[1] the Allah Elohim Hashem or Most High God Jehovah.“And it came to be, when all the people were immersed, יהושע also being immersed, and praying, the heaven was opened, and the Set-apart Spirit descended in bodily form like a dove upon Him, and a voice came from heaven saying, “You are My Son, the Beloved, in You I did delight.” And when יהושע Himself began, He was about thirty years of age, being, as reckoned by law, son of Yosĕph, of Ěli, of Mattithyahu, of Lĕwi, of Meleḵi, of Yanah, of Yosĕph, of Mattithyahu, of Amots, of Naḥum, of Ḥesli, of Noḡah, of Ma’ath, of Mattithyahu, of Shim’i, of Yosĕph, of Yehuḏah, of Yoḥanan, of Rephayah, of Zerubbaḇel, of She’alti’ĕl, of Neri, of Meleḵi, of Addi, of Qosam, of Elmoḏam, of Ěr, of Yehoshua, of Eli’ezer, of Yorim, of Mattithyahu, of Lĕwi, of Shim’on, of Yehuḏah, of Yosĕph, of Yonam, of Elyaqim, of Melea, of Menna, of Mattattah, of Nathan, of Dawiḏ, of Yishai, of Oḇĕḏ, of Bo’az, of Salmon, of Naḥshon, of Amminaḏaḇ, of Ram, of Ḥetsron, of Perets, of Yehuḏah, of Ya’aqoḇ, of Yitsḥaq, of Aḇraham, of Teraḥ, of Naḥor, of Seruḡ, of Re’u, of Peleḡ, of Ěḇer, of Shĕlaḥ, of Qĕynan, of Arpaḵshaḏ, of Shĕm, of Noaḥ, of Lemeḵ, of Methushelaḥ, of Ḥanoḵ, of Yereḏ, of Mahalalĕl, of Qĕynan, of Enosh, of Shĕth, of Aḏam, of Elohim.” (Luke 3:21-38 The Scriptures 1998+)
Those who kept to the commandments of the Almighty could call themselves children of God and by such they were sons or daughters of God. Today it is not otherwise. If we follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and honour his Father also as our Father, God shall be willing to accept us as His children and we shall be able to be a son or a daughter of God and be allowed to call Him our Father who is in heaven.[2]
In the same manner as God by divine fiat created Adam from the dust as Son of God, so in due time He created within the womb of a human female the one who is by the action of the Holy spirit, the supernaturally begotten Son of God. It is surely destructive of straightforward information and revelation to argue that the Son of God did not have his origin in Mary but as an eternal Spirit. This is to dehumanize the Son — to make him essentially non-human, merely a divine visitor disguised as a man, while from the genealogical tree we see the he came forwards from all human beings.
[1] Luke 3: 38 Re. Murdock
[2] After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. (Matthew 6:9 KJV)
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To be continued: 29. The only one + 30. Pre-existence and virginal birth exclude each other
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Jesus begotten Son of God #11 Existence and Genesis Raising up
The Anointed begotten Son of God
26. Brought into existence
Anthony Buzzard, editor of Focus on the Kingdom writes in” Jesus’ Long-Form Birth Certificate Released by Luke and Matthew (and John), 2000 years ago, and Recorded in Scripture” (June 2011):
“The angel Gabriel in a compact and precise statement in answer to Mary’s reasonable inquiry about pregnancy in the absence of a husband gives us a clear picture that there would be special things happening in the future: namely first there would be the holy spirit coming over Miryam or Mary. Next, still in the absence of a husband the power of the Highest will overshadow her, and for that reason precisely (dio kai) the one to be brought into existence will be called (i.e. will be) the Son of God(Luke 1:35).By around 150 AD the philosopher Justin Martyr had so badly misunderstood this that he claimed that the Son engineered his own conception.Few Bible doctrines are supplied for our understanding and edification in such a comprehensive and comprehensible way, with “Son of God” given its exact definition. But here it is: This verse should have been allowed its monitoring and supervising position and authority as the perfect exposition of what Son of God means, and consequently who Jesus is and was. He is the Son of God, remarkably but hardly surprisingly because God was his Father by miracle. Jesus is thus son of Eve, of Abraham, of David, of Mary and at the same time of God. As Adam was also the Son of God by divine miracle and creation (Luke 3:38), so is Jesus Son of God. “God the Son” is out of the question at once, since the only and mortal Son of God, Messiah, was “brought into existence” some 2000 years ago, at a definite and predicted geographical location. Isaiah 7:14 had predicted this mighty event. It is unthinkable that Matthew and Luke knew of a “God the Son,” uncreated, who left heaven and walked on the earth, while a coequal God the Father remained in heaven. That would be an obvious doubling of God. (Modalist Unitarians, in a desperate attempt to hide a threatening duality in God, said “the Son IS the Father.”)”
27. The plot thickens
If one finds intolerable the need to say “He are one and they is three” (Dr. Millard Erickson, God in Three Persons, p. 270), what is our alternative? Suppose we agree with top logician Stephen Davis that “no one has yet been able to explain in what way God is one and in what different way He is three” (p. 258).
Viktor Vasnetsov. His only begotten son and the word of God. Preparation for a Vladimir cathedral frsco 1885-1896 Tretyakov Gallery
As we have seen in chapter 22 the aorist of the key word “beget” as pointing to the origin of the true Messiah, is the great key to understanding. In that famous saying in Psalm 2:7 the Messiah is defined by these words: “You are my Son. Today I begat you = brought you into existence.” That text reappears most reasonably in Matthew 1:20, as explaining the genesis of Jesus (v. 18).
“What is begotten [by the Father] in her [aorist participle of gennao] is from holy spirit.” Again in Luke: “What is to be begotten will be the holy Son of God” or perhaps “What will be begotten holy is the Son of God.” The sense is the same.
Then in Acts 13:33, if we consult F.F. Bruce and other commentary we find the Psalm 2:7 text applied where naturally it belongs, to the coming into existence, the putting on the human scene of Jesus, not to his resurrection which has a different proof text, in verse 34: “And as for the fact that he was raised from the dead…”
Bruce is insightful: “‘Raised up’ – that is by raising him up in the sense in which he raised David (v. 22). For anistemi in this sense, see 3:22; 7:37; 3:26 (‘raised him up and sent him’). The promise of v. 23, the fulfilment of which is described in 13:33, has to do with the sending of the Messiah, not his resurrection (for which see v. 34). The addition of ‘from the dead’ in v. 34 differentiates this use of ‘raise up’ from its use in v. 33” (Acts of Apostles, Comm. on Greek text).
A Trinitarian commentator amongst many was honest enough to admit the obvious here, although it does not help his doctrine: “The Apostle does not quote in Acts 13:33 the passage from Psalm 2:7 in order to prove the resurrection of Jesus, but his incarnation [he means here the beginning of his life in Mary]. The ‘raising up’ [the RV corrected the KJV], not ‘raised up AGAIN’ as in KJV, of Jesus spoken of in v. 33, is the bringing of the Messiah into the world for his mediatorial work.
Compare Romans 9:17, ‘For this same purpose I have raised you up.’ This incarnation was promised in the second psalm. Paul then proceeds (Acts 13:34) to prove the fulfilment of the promise that the Messiah would be raised from the dead, by quoting Isaiah 53:3 and also Psalm 16:10. ‘And as concerning the fact that he raised him from the dead…I will give you the sure mercies of David’” (Dr. G.T Shedd, Dogmatic Theology, Vol. 1, p. 327.)
After all “beget” does not mean to resurrect from the dead, but to become the father of, and we know when that happened already.
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On the Nature of Christ
If Christendom is astray as to the Father and the Holy Spirit, it is not wonderful that we should find it astray in its conception of the Lord Jesus who is the manifestation of the Father by the Spirit. Christendom believes Christ to be the incarnation of one of three distinct essences, or personalities, which are supposed to constitute the God-head; and that though clothed in human form, he was God in the absolute sense of being the Creator.
This is the doctrine of the Trinitarian section of Christendom, in opposition to which, another section believes that Christ was a mere man, begotten in the ordinary process of generation, and distinguished above his fellows by a pre-eminent endowment of the “virtues” of human nature, which fitted him to be an example to mankind. This (the Unitarian) view regards him as a teacher sent from God, and is in some sense the Son of God; but denies the essential divinity of his nature. Both these views will be found equally removed from the truth. The truth lies between.
Papyrus 69 or P. Oxy 2383 Marcion Gospel of Luke
The testimonies which teach the indivisible unity of the Deity, as the One Father, out of whom ALL things have proceeded, and who is supreme above all, even above Christ (I Cor. 11:3), are inconsistent with the Trinitarian representation of God. The supremacy and unity of the Father would not be affirmable if there were three co-equal personalities in His One personality—a doctrine which presents us with a contradiction in terms as well as in sense. Jesus emphasises the distinction between himself and the Father, in the following statements:—
“I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me” (John 5:30).
Again:—
“My doctrine is not mine, but His that sent me” (John 7:16).
Again:—
“It is written in your law that the testimony of two men is true. I am one that bear witness of myself; and the Father that sent me (the other witness), beareth witness of me” (John 8:17–18).
Again:—
“This is life eternal, that they might know Thee, the only true God, AND Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent” (John 17:3).
The persons of the trinity are identified by symbols on their chests: The Son has a lamb (agnus dei), the Father an Eye of Providence, and the Spirit a dove. – Fridolin Leiber (1853–1912)
But the Unitarian view, still more so. Joseph was not the father of Jesus. He himself repudiated his paternity, and was about to put away Mary, his betrothed, when an angel came to him with this message:—
“Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife. For that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit” (Matt. 1:20).
This marvel had been previously intimated to Mary by the angel Gabriel, as recorded in Luke 1:35:—
“The Holy Spirit shall come upon thee; and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee; therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.”
The Unitarian evades these testimonies by denying the authenticity of the first two chapters of Matthew and Luke. The reasons for this denial are altogether flimsy and insufficient: nay, they are bad. The evidence in proof of the genuineness of the (by them) rejected chapters is more than decisive: it cannot be answered: it is irresistible. It leaves no room for doubt or gainsaying. There is the united evidence of all the accessible ancient MSS. and versions, supported by the recognition of the very earliest Christian writers, confirmed by the internal character of the chapters and the necessity for the event which they narrate, to explain the character and mission of Jesus of Nazareth. Against this, there is the merely negative fact that the disputed chapters are absent from the Ebionite gospel, which at the time of its production was pronounced a corruption; and from the Evangelium of Marcion, a gospel which he wrote to suit his own heathenish notions, and from which he recklessly omitted, not only the disputed chapters, but everything that interfered with his peculiar ideas.
Baptism of Christ – Francesco Albani (1578–1660)
The first writer who mentions the Ebionites is Irenæus, who speaks of them as a sect not only separated from the general body of Christians, but who opposed the doctrines preached by the Apostles, and rejected, not only the disputed chapters, but the greater part of the books of the New Testament, rejecting all the epistles of Paul, whom they called an apostate from the law. They only made use of a Hebrew gospel, which they called Matthew’s, but which differs from Matthew in many particulars besides the two chapters. Here is a sect which rejected whole books of authentic Scripture, because they were inimical to their notions. How can a reasonable man accept such a sect as affording guidance on the question of the authenticity of two particular chapters absent from their version, but present in almost all other MSS. throughout the world? Their “Matthew” was impugned at the time. It was proclaimed a corruption of the genuine gospel, while the “canonical” Matthew, as we have it, was never called in question. Epiphanius thus speaks:—“In that gospel which they (the Ebionites) have called the gospel according to Matthew, which is not entire and perfect, but corrupted and curtailed, and which they call The Hebrew Gospel, it is written” (and he quotes), “Thus,” says he, “they change the true account into a falsehood … They have taken away the genealogy from Matthew, and accordingly begin their gospel with these words: ‘It came to pass, in the days of Herod, King of Judæa.’ ” Origen alludes to it thus:—“It is written in a certain gospel, which is called, ‘according to the Hebrews,’ if indeed any one is pleased to receive it, NOT AS OF AUTHORITY, but for illustration of the present question” (and then he quotes). He afterwards quotes this as a specimen of the same gospel according to the Hebrews: “Just now my mother, the Holy Ghost, took me by one of my hairs, and carried me to the great mountain Tabor.” This absurdity, and another passage, quoted by Origen, prove that the text of the Hebrew gospel, read by Origen, was not the same as our Greek gospel of Matthew, with which its friends suppose it to be identical. It differed on many points besides the first two chapters. The absence of the first two chapters of Matthew from the Ebionite and Nazarene gospels is of no weight in view of their rejection of Paul’s epistles, which even the Unitarians accept. The omission is accounted for in the way the rejection of Paul’s epistles is accounted for; the two first chapters did not coincide with their notions, and therefore they struck them out. The Nazarene and Ebionite copies of Matthew’s gospel not only omit the first two chapters, but in several instances they contradict the other three gospels of Mark, Luke, and John, whereas the corresponding passages in our Greek copy of Matthew agree with them, which shows which way the tampering has occurred.
As to Marcion, he omitted the two disputed chapters: but he also rejected the whole of the Old Testament, both the law and the prophets, as proceeding from the God of the Jews, whom he regarded as the creator of this world, in contrast to a higher Creator. As to the New Testament, he made one for himself consisting of only one gospel, supposed to be compiled chiefly from Luke, and only ten of Paul’s epistles, which are altered from the received version in numerous instances, in order to make the text more pliable to his gnostic notions. People who quote him against the miraculous conception are bound consistently to follow him in these variations as well. He did not admit Christ to have been born at all. Consequently, be begins his gospel thus:—“In the 15th year of the reign of Tiberius, God descended into Capernaum.” He not only omits the first two chapters of Luke; he omits also the account of John the Baptist, the baptism of Christ, and his visit to Nazareth. He also omits part of chapter 8:19; 10:21; 11, part of verse 29, and all of verses 30, 31, 32, 49, 50, 51; 12:6, 28, part of verses 8, 30, 32; 13:1–5: altered verse 28, omitted from 29 to end of chapter: 15:11–32; 17, part of 10–12: whole of verse 13: whole of 17:31–33; 19:28–48; 20, from 9 to 18: also 37, 38; 21:18, 21, 22; 22:16, 35, 37, 50, 51; 23:43; 24:26–7, and verse 25 altered.
Those who quote Marcion as an authority in the case of the first two chapters, ought to accept him as such in all these cases. That they disregard him in these cases is a proof that, even in their opinion, his authority is of no weight.
The divine paternity of Jesus would stand an unassailable truth, even if the records of Matthew and Luke had no existence. These records are, however, invaluable. They are the circumstantial illustrations of a truth which, though the nature of the case, and the prophetic testimony necessitate it, we could not have so clearly and satisfactorily comprehended without them. They explain to us the appearance and character of Christ, and make us privy to the divine method of procedure, from its incipiency onwards, in the most wondrous work of God among men.
That Christ was an example in the sense of being “holy, harmless, and undefiled” is beyond doubt; but it is also true that he was a great deal more. The speciality of his mission is so plainly stated as to leave no room for the Unitarian doctrine of moral example. “Behold the Lamb of God which taketh away the sin of the world, ” said John the Baptist, on seeing Jesus (John 1:29). How did he take it away? The answer is in the words of the apostle Paul:—“He put away sin by the sacrifice of himself” (Heb. 9:26). Jesus himself had said, “I lay down my life for my sheep.” Paul also says to Timothy, in the second epistle, first chapter, tenth verse, “Jesus Christ hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel”; a fact which is stated by Christ himself in this form, “God sent His Son, that the world through him might be saved” (John 3:17). Furthermore, Peter says, “There is none other name under heaven given whereby we must be saved.” (Acts 4:12). Salvation is thus directly connected with the first appearing of Christ, and with what he accomplished then; not on the principle of moral stimulus supplied, but in virtue of the essential result secured by the course he fulfilled.

Incarnation of the Virgin Mary with the Three-Une God- Giulio Cesare Procaccini, Incoronazione della Vergine (Getty Museum) about 1604 – 1607
Leaving both Trinitarianism and Unitarianism, we may find the truth in the Scriptures for ourselves. The simple appellation of “Son,” as applied to Christ, is sufficient to prove that his existence is derived, and not eternal. The phrase, “Son of God,” implies that the one God, the eternal Father, was antecedent to the Son, and that the Son had his origin in or “out of” the Father to whom he must therefore be subordinate in a sense inconsistent with Trinitarian representation. “This day have I begotten thee” is the language of Scripture, dearly pointing to a commencement of days. This view is confirmed by the statement of Christ:—“As the Father hath life in himself, so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself” (John 5:26).
Christ, therefore, though now possessed of inherent life, had been invested with it; it is not in this case underived. It is only the Great Uncreate, the Father, that can say, “I am, and there is none else beside me.” Yet, though Christ’s is not an underived existence, it is more directly divine than the human. A man is an embodiment of his father’s mortal life-energy. Jesus was not born of the will of the flesh, but of God. He was begotten of Mary through the power of the spirit. This was the origin of his title, “the Son of God.” See the angel’s words to Mary:—“Therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God” (Luke 1:35).
But, though Son of God, he was flesh and blood. “Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of THE SAME.… He took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren” (Heb. 2:14, 16, 17). He was made sin for us, who knew no sin (II Cor. 5:21). As he was in character sinless, this could only apply to his bodily constitution, which, through Mary, was the sin-nature of Adam. As Paul says elsewhere (Rom. 8:3), “God sent his Son in the likeness of sinful flesh.” “He was sent forth made of a woman” (Gal. 4:4), “of the seed of David according to the flesh” (Rom. 1:3). Jesus was “a man approved of God by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him (after his thirty years’ preparation) in the midst of Israel” (Acts 2:22). This is Peter’s description of him. Paul speaks of him as “the man Christ Jesus” (I Tim. 2:5). He was tried and disciplined as Adam was, but succeeded where Adam failed. “Though he were a son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered” (Heb. 5:8). This precludes the idea of his being “very God.” He was the Son of God, the manifestation of God by spirit-power, but not God himself. “The life was manifested, ” says John, “and we have seen it, and bear witness, and show unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father and was manifested unto us” (I John 1:2).
Again, in his gospel narrative (chapter 1:14), he says:—“The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth,” from which it is evident that Christ was a divine manifestation—an embodiment of Deity in flesh—Emmanuel, God with us. “God giveth not the spirit by measure unto him,” says the same apostle (chapter 3:34). The spirit descended upon him in bodily shape at his baptism in the Jordan, and took possession of him. This was the anointing which constituted him Christ (or the anointed), and which gave him the superhuman powers of which he showed himself possessed. This is clear from the words of Peter, in his address to the Gentiles in the house of Cornelius—(Acts 10:38)—“God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power; who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed.”
This statement alone is sufficient to disprove the popular view of Christ’s essential Godhead. If he were “very God” in his character as Son, why was it necessary he should be “anointed” with spirit and power? He did no miracles before his anointing. He had no power of himself. This is his own declaration: “I can of mine own self do nothing” (John 5:30). “The Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works” (John 14:10). On Calvary, left to the utter helplessness of his own humanity, he felt the anguish of the hour and cried out, “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” (Matt. 27:46). Before his anointing, he was simply the “body prepared” for the divine manifestation that was to take place through him. The preparation of this body commenced with the Spirit’s action on Mary, and concluded when Jesus, being thirty years of age, stood approved in the perfection of a sinless and mature character. After the Spirit’s descent upon him, he was the full manifestation of God in the flesh. The Father, by the Spirit, tabernacled in Christ among men. “God was in Christ,” says Paul, “reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them.”
The Lamb of God exhalted.- Cellar painting in Peace church in Schweidnitz (an Apocalyptic scene) – Photo Qasinka
When Jesus said, “He that hath seen me hath seen the Father,” he did not contradict the statement that “no man hath seen God at any time,” but simply expressed the truth contained in the following words of Paul:—Christ is “the image of the invisible God” (Col. 1:15); “the brightness of His glory, and the express image of His person” (Heb. 1:3). Those who looked upon the anointed Jesus, beheld a representation of the Deity accessible to human vision.
Jesus declares things of himself which are held to sanction the idea that he existed as a person before his birth of Mary; such as that “he came down from heaven to give life to the world” (John 6:33); that “he proceeded forth and came from the Father” (John 8:42; 16:28); that he had “power to lay down his life and power to take it again” (John 10:18); that he “had glory with the Father before the world was,” and was “loved of Him before the foundation of the world” (John 17:5–24), etc.
It is evident, however, that we must understand these expressions in the light of the undoubted facts of Christ’s life and mission. These literal facts are that he was begotten of the Holy Spirit, and born a baby at Bethlehem (Luke 1:35; 2:5–7); grew up to be a man, increasing in wisdom with years, stature, and experience (Luke 2:52); remained the private and undistinguished son of Joseph the carpenter, until the power of the Spirit was shed upon him at his baptism (Luke 3:21–23): AFTER WHICH, he did the works and spoke the words recorded; that he was put to death through weakness (II Cor. 13:4); was deserted of the power of the Father when suspended on the cross; and that he was afterwards raised from the dead by the Father (Acts 2:24, 32; 3:15; 4:10; 5:30; 10:40; 13:30, 37, and so on).

Baptism of Jesus Chrits represented by a masterpainter from Lake Constance of 1466, with the Trinitarian idea of the Godheads – 1450 – Paris, Musée du Louvre, Département des Arts Graphiques
With these facts in view, we are enabled to attach the proper sense to statements which, in a naked and detached form, would appear to teach a personal pre-existence. For instance, when Jesus said to the Pharisees that he came down from heaven, he could not mean that the person standing before them had bodily descended from the clouds, as his words, literally understood, would have taught, and as the Pharisees appeared to have understood; he meant to say that his origin was from heaven. The “Holy Spirit” that came upon Mary—the “Power of the Highest” that overshadowed her, came down from heaven; consequently, the resultant man could, without extravagance, say he came down from heaven. The sense was literal as applied to the Power of the Highest that produced “the man Christ Jesus”; both at the stage of his begettal and the stage of his anointing on the banks of the Jordan, when the Spirit descended in bodily form and abode upon him; but not literal as applied to the man Christ Jesus.
When he said he proceeded forth and came from God, it was in the sense of these facts. He could not mean that as a person he had emanated from the very presence of the Almighty, but that the Father had sent him in the way disclosed in the record of his birth and baptism. John is described as “a man sent from God,” without meaning to suggest that John existed before he was born and sent.
When Jesus said he had power to take up his life after it should be laid down, he expressed the confidence that God would raise him. It was not power in the dynamic sense; but authority (εξονσια); he immediately adds, “This commandment HAVE I RECEIVED OF MY FATHER”; that is, the taking up of his life would result from the Father’s power and authority, exercised in accordance with the pledge given by the Father. Literally, Jesus did not take up his life; the Father raised him (see the references to Acts, three paragraphs back); but because it was the Father’s purpose, and because the Father spoke through Jesus (John 14:10), Jesus could appropriately say that he had power to raise up himself. An example of this style of language, in which what a person has a relation to in the divine purpose, is considered as under his control and referable to his power, occurs in Jer, 1:10:—
“See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant.”
Literally, the prophet did none of these things, but was overpowered and slain, as nearly all the servants of God were; yet the things he predicted came to pass, and this is taken as a sufficient basis for the highly-wrought language above quoted, which imputes the result of Jeremiah’s predictions to Jeremiah’s individual operations.
Christ’s statement that he had glory with the Father before the world was, must in the same way be understood in harmony with the elementary facts of the testimony. The glorification of Jesus was a purpose with the Father from the beginning: and, in this sense, he had glory with the Father before the world was. This may appear a strained explanation; but a regard to the scriptural habit of speech will justify it, in view of the testified facts of the case.
The Lord said to Jeremiah (chapter 1:5):—“Before I formed thee in the belly I KNEW THEE; and before thou camest forth out of the womb, I SANCTIFIED THEE: and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.” Now Jeremiah did not exist before his conception. Yet these words would seem to teach it, if understood as those who believe in the pre-existence of Christ, understood the statements about him. As a purpose Jeremiah existed; his person was as clearly present to the divine mind as if he had stood before Him in actual fact. This is the explanation of words, which, rigidly construed, would imply Jeremiah’s pre-existence.
Look again at the words spoken of Cyrus, the Persian ruler, more than a hundred years before he was born (Isaiah 45:4):—“For Jacob my servant’s sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name; I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.” The same remark applies here: Cyrus was present to the divine contemplation as really as if he existed. Hence a style of language which would seem to assume his existence before he was born.
On the same principle, the purpose to raise a dead man is expressed by ignoring his death, and assuming his continued existence. Thus Jesus deduces the resurrection from the fact that God styled Himself the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, at a time when these men were dead. The Sadducees saw the force of the argument, and were silenced (Matt. 22:31–34). The principle of the argument is expressed in the words of Paul (Rein. 4:17)—“God who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not (but are to be) AS THOUGH THEY WERE.”

Anointing – Priestly Code the high priest is anointed
The words spoken of Jesus are of this order. When he said in prayer to the Father, “Thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world,” he did not teach that he existed from “he foundation of the world,” but that the Father regarded him with love from the beginning, and that, therefore, to the Father’s mind, he was present. In the words of Peter, “He was fore-ordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times.” (I Peter 1:20).
The same style of language is adopted with reference to Christ’s people: “He hath chosen US in him before the foundation of the world.” Literally, this would prove the existence of believers before the world began, for properly, a thing must exist to be the object of choice; actually, it only proves divine foresight. The glory which Jesus had before the world was, was the glory which God purposed for him from the beginning. Literally, he had not the glory referred to before the world was. What was the nature of that glory—the glory Jesus received in answer to this prayer? HE—the bodily Jesus—the body prepared —that which was evolved from the substance of Mary and made the subject of the anointing—was made incorruptible in substance, and the spirit shed upon that substance so abundantly, that it made him more luminous than the sun (Acts 26:13), and gave him power to bestow the spirit, and control providence in heaven and earth. Was Jesus possessed of this glory before he was born? Was he a body anointed with the spirit before he was the body prepared? Was he a real resurrected Jesus before Jesus of Nazareth was born in Bethlehem? Yet this was the glory he had with the Father before the world was. It was a glory he had in the Father’s purpose, but in no other sense.
In the same way are we to understand the words, “Before Abraham was, I am” (John 8:58). This was Christ’s answer to the incredulity excited by his statement, “Abraham rejoiced to see my day, and he saw it, and was glad.” The Jews thought he meant to insinuate that he was contemporary with Abraham, whereas he only meant to express the fact stated by Paul in the following words:—“These all (including Abraham—see verse 8) died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them AFAR OFF” (Heb. 11:13). It was this seeing of the promise of Christ “afar off” that made Abraham glad. It was the day presented in the promises that he saw, but, as they almost always did, the Jews mistook Jesus, and, as he was prone to do, he deepened their bewilderment by using another form of speech, which still more obscured his meaning, on the principle indicated in Matt. 13:11–15: a form of speech which in one phrase expressed two aspects of the truth concerning himself, viz., that he was purposed before Abraham existed, and that the Father, of whom he was then the manifestation, existed before all.
Jesus said, “I and my Father are one” (John 10:30). He could not mean, in view of all the testimony, what Trinitarians understand him to mean, that he and the Father were identically the same person (“the same in substance, equal in power and glory”), but that they were one in spirit-connection and design of operations. This is apparent from his prayer for his disciples, “That they may be one, EVEN as we are one.” The unity is not as to person, but as to nature and state of mind. This is the unity that exists between the Father and the Son, and the unity that will be ultimately established between the Father and His whole family, of whom Christ is the elder brother. When this unity is established, Christ will take a more subordinate position than he now occupies, in relation to the race of Adam. Paul says, “When all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto Him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all” (I Cor. 15:28).
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Robert Roberts. (1984; 2002). Christendom Astray from the Bible (On The Nature Of Jesus Christ p154–165). Logos Publications. (Re-edited by the Belgian Christadelphians (2011)
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The Seed Of The Woman Bruised
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How Christ Fulfilled The Promise.
In fulfilment of the promises of God, Jesus, as “the seed of the woman,” was born of the virgin Mary by the overshadowing power of the Holy Spirit. His mother was told:
“The Holy Spirit shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee; therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.” (Luke 1:35.)
Christ had no corporeal existence before that point of time. Though he was in the mind and purpose of God from the very beginning, and in that sense was “with God,” be did not exist as a person until the “word was made flesh and dwelt among” the Jews 1900 years ago (John 1:14).
Unfortunately, confusion reigns concerning the person of the Lord Jesus, and his purpose and place in the plan of God, as a result of the reaching that claims be is the second person of a Trinity, or that he preexisted before his birth.
We ask that if the reader believes either of these doctrines, he suspend judgement upon what we have stated above, until all the evidence is before him. We undertake to explain any verse of Scripture in the light of the teaching we have set down, but we fail to understand how anybody can logically believe that Jesus and God are two persons and Net one, or that the Lord Jesus existed before he was born.
Jesus was born of his mother, and grew up to reverence God, his Father. We learn that he “increased in wisdom and stature and in favour with God and man” (Luke 2:52). This expresses normal development; but if Jesus were God such a statement is incomprehensible; or if he pre-existed, it meant that he must have forgotten everything he knew in his previous existence, and had to learn it all again!
Born of a human mother, he inherited the nature common to all mankind. This is a nature subject to death, so that the Lord was in need of redemption from death, just as much as those he came to save. He was subjected to the some trials and temptations as is mankind generally, but whereas all others have failed, be triumphed over the nature he possessed, and rendered sinless obedience to God.
Where did Christ derive the strength to conquer, whereas all others possessing the same nature have failed? The answer is: from God. God was his Father and a spiritually-minded woman was his mother, so that from birth the Lord inherited qualities that be was able to develop by his own independent freewill as he grew towards maturity (see Luke 2:40, 42–47, 52). In addition, he was granted the spirit of God without measure (John 3:34), and this quickened him in the understanding of God’s will and purpose (Isaiah 11:2–3; Luke 4:18–19). By these means, Jesus, who was the only begotten of the Father full of grace and truth” (John 1:14), received strength that enabled him to render sinless obedience to the requirements of his Father, and manifest a character which reflected the Divine image (1 Peter 2:21–24).
This was necessary for the work of redemption, so that it is not solely the work of Christ, but that of the Father and the Son acting in conjunction one with the other. The Bible teaches: “God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself” (2 Cor. 5:19). Jesus leaned heavily upon the Father, and God strengthened him, with the result that the fullness of the Divine character was revealed in a human body, that inherited the consequences of the first sin.
The lesson of redemption, therefore, teaches that we must seek a Strength apart from flesh, even that which comes from God (James 1:17), if we would develop a character pleasing unto Him. Moreover, such Strength is available to us, as Paul taught. He declared: “I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me” (Phil. 4:13).
How The Seed Of The Woman Was Bruised On The Heel.
How mistaken they were was revealed three days later when he rose from the dead.
Why did God permit His son to die upon the cross? What was accomplished in his death? First of all, it constituted a public exhibition of what is due to flesh which the history of mankind has revealed to be evil and sinful in its tendency.
Jesus rendered perfect obedience to the Father, in spite of the flesh, not because of it (John 6:63). If Jesus had yielded to his own will instead of that of the Father, be would not have rendered perfect obedience “even unto the death of the cross,” for in submitting to the requirements of God, did he not say: “Not my will but Thine be done.”
Flesh which has proved so rebellious against God throughout the ages, could only be atoned for by one way: the shedding of blood (Heb. 9:22). The flesh of Jesus, hanging lifeless upon the cross, presents the lesson of salvation to humanity. Being of our nature, he had to conquer it in order to attain unto immortality. This he did by rendering perfect obedience unto God through the strength he derived from that source. In a figurative sense, therefore, he had crucified the flesh in life by controlling its desires, and subjugating his will to that of his Father. When, at last, he hung lifeless upon the cross, the struggle was at an end. In that final act of dedication, the flesh had been silenced for ever, and no longer could assert itself against the will of God.
The “crucified Jesus” is a public exhibition of what God requires of mankind if they would seek after salvation, whereas the risen Christ” is the symbol of hope for those who are “in Christ.”
Mansfield, H. (1997). Key to Understanding of the Scriptures (electronic ed.). Findon, South Australia: Logos Publications.
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When people say that Jesus came down from heaven they should know that all the good things come down from heaven.
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23. Coming down from heaven
When people say that Jesus came down from heaven they should know that all the good things come down from heaven.
“Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no change, nor shadow of turning.1 {Footnote: 1See Mal. 3:6.} “(James 1:17 The Scriptures 1998+)
“This is not the wisdom coming down from above, but it is earthly, unspiritual, demonic.” (James 3:15 The Scriptures 1998+) + “But the wisdom from above is first clean, then peaceable, gentle, ready to obey, filled with compassion and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy.” (James 3:17 The Scriptures 1998+)
Also the food we eat, like our daily bread comes from heaven.
Two distict different figures Jesus the son of God and his Father the Only One God -Image via Wikipedia
““This is the bread which comes down out of the heaven, so that anyone might eat of it, and not die. “I am the living bread which came down out of the heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he shall live forever. And indeed, the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world.” The Yehud’im, therefore, were striving with one another, saying, “How is this One able to give us His flesh to eat?” יהושע therefore said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Ad’am and drink His blood, you possess no life in yourselves. “He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood possesses everlasting life, and I shall raise him up in the last day. “For My flesh is truly food, and My blood is truly drink. “He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood stays in Me, and I in him. “As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me shall live because of Me. “This is the bread which came down out of the heaven, not as your fathers ate the manna and died. He who eats this bread shall live forever.” “ (John 6:50-58 The Scriptures 1998+)
Jesus his flesh is as the bread which came down from heaven. As in our previous serious about language we see that several people also are caught in the “mad about my flat” language fallacy. As we showed the difference in meaning or understanding in different parts in the world, in the UK and the USA this means totally different things. They assume that “coming down from heaven” means that you were alive in heaven before you came down literally. But “mad about my flat” means “excited about my new apartment,” when English read this in their British environment and with British language habits in mind. So what does “coming down from heaven” mean in biblical idiom, which is Hebrew (hardly surprising) in style?
We may never forget we do have to read the Bible from a Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek view. Matthew being Hebrew spoke in his tradition and meant with such a saying that one’s origin is with God the Father (also Luke said that too!). It does not mean that one is a prehuman personage. Pre-human of course implies, if you think about it, non-human. And the whole point of the Messiah, Son of God, is that he is and must be a man, “the man mediator” of the lucidly clear statement of Paul in 1 Timothy 2:5: “There is one God, and one mediator between God and man, the man Messiah Jesus,” the second Adam. Paul is keen to offset any opposing idea when he says “the spiritual man was not first” (1 Corinthians 15:46-48). The earthly man comes before the second Adam who is the Lord Messiah — not the other way round.
“For there is one Elohim,1 and one Mediator between Elohim and men, the Man Messiah יהושע, {Footnote: 11 Cor. 8:6, Eph. 4:6, Mk. 12:29-34.} “ (1 Timothy 2:5 The Scriptures 1998+)
“The spiritual, however, was not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual. The first man was of the earth, earthy; the second Man is the Master from heaven. As is the earthy, so also are those who are earthy; and as is the heavenly, so also are those who are heavenly.” (1 Corinthians 15:46-48 The Scriptures 1998+)
24. First spirit and then flesh
In the 4th century strange ideas entered Christendom and certain Christians did everything to become on good terms with the men in power.
In 2 Clement 5:9 the original system was being suppressed by the philosophical notion that Jesus was “first spirit and then flesh.” That shift, documented by 2 Clement 5:9, meant that the historical Jesus was being swallowed up by a different Jesus. As Martin Werner lamented, “the historical Jesus completely disappeared” behind a Gnostic counterfeit figure (Formation of Dogma, p. 298).
A prominent spokesman for the traditional view that God is three Persons in one Essence (“three Whos in one What” as James White and Hank Hanegraaff maintain) writes: “Our Lord Jesus Christ is God manifest in the flesh. God tabernacling in human form. When I say that I believe in the full deity of Christ, that is what I affirm. At his birth our Lord Jesus Christ did not begin to exist” (Rev. Ian Paisley). So much for Matthew and Luke and John!
Anthony Buzzard wonders: “Putting on our Berean hats, what do we find? The origin, coming into existence of the Son of God was as follows (so wrote Matthew in 1:18): Mary was found to be pregnant under the influence of “holy spirit” — the personal operational presence and power of the One God, the Father. The result of the biological miracle worked in Mary is laid out for us: “What is begotten, fathered, brought into existence in her is from the holy spirit” (1:20). Mary would have had no difficulty understanding this very plain, unifying information, and nor should we. We might even risk being struck dumb for not believing, as was Zacharias.”
25. Seed of Eve
To bring any of the persons God foresaw in existence He uses human beings who, today, all come from the same forefathers: Adam, Noach/Noah and Abraham. In the line of David and Abraham came Jesus also into existence or “begat”, following God’s marvellous promise that the Messiah would be the seed of Eve (Genesis 3:15)[1]. In the Old Testament is written in the future sense that Jehovah our God would raise up to us a prophet from among the people to whom He spoke for generations. The priest’s due from the people[2], also would be one as the writer, to whom many would and should listen. In Old Times Jehovah had said. “I shall raise up a prophet to them from among their brothers, one like you; and I will put My Words in his mouth; and he shall speak to them all that I shall command him. And it shall be, whoever will not listen to My Words which he shall speak in My name, I will require it at his hand.” (Deuteronomy 18:15-19 LITV)
““יהוה your Elohim shall raise up for you a Prophet like me from your midst, from your brothers. Listen to Him, according to all you asked of יהוה your Elohim in Ḥorĕḇ in the day of the assembly, saying, ‘Let me not hear again the voice of יהוה my Elohim, nor let me see this great fire any more, lest I die.’ “And יהוה said to me, ‘What they have spoken is good. ‘I shall raise up for them a Prophet like you out of the midst of their brothers. And I shall put My Words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him. ‘And it shall be, the man who does not listen to My Words which He speaks in My Name, I require it of him.” (Deuteronomy 18:15-19 The Scriptures 1998+)
The seed of Eve would also bring the descendant by bloodline of David.
““And now, say to My servant Dawiḏ, ‘Thus said יהוה of hosts, “I took you from the pasture, from following the flock, to be ruler over My people, over Yisra’ĕl. “And I have been with you wherever you have gone, and have cut off all your enemies from before you, and have made you a great name, like the name of the great ones who are on the earth. “And I shall appoint a place for My people Yisra’ĕl, and shall plant them, and they shall dwell in a place of their own and no longer be afraid, neither shall the children of wickedness oppress them again, as at the first, even from the day I appointed rulers over My people Yisra’ĕl, and have caused you to rest from all your enemies. And יהוה has declared to you that He would make you a house. “When your days are filled and you rest with your fathers, I shall raise up your seed after you, who comes from your inward parts, and shall establish his reign. “He does build a house for My Name, and I shall establish the throne of his reign forever. “I am to be his Father, and he is My son. If he does perversely, I shall reprove him with the rod of men and with the blows of the sons of men.” (2 Samuel 7:8-14 The Scriptures 1998+)
God, in a precious moment of history, initiated the history of His unique Son. The Words spoken for many years could come into realization, could come the cause of the generation.[3] This was a Son through whom God expressly did not speak in previous times.
“Elohim, having of old spoken in many portions and many ways to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by the Son, whom He has appointed heir of all, through whom also He made the ages,1 {Footnote: 1John 1:3.} who being the brightness of the esteem and the exact representation of His substance, and sustaining all by the word of His power, having made a cleansing of our sins through Himself, sat down at the right hand of the Greatness on high, having become so much better than the messengers, as He has inherited a more excellent Name than them.” (Hebrews 1:1-4 The Scriptures 1998+)
The Elohim, Jehovah God spoke about a future because naturally since that prophesied Son was not then alive! Being not alive is also not being in existence, in life, in vigour.[4]
[1] (3:16) “And I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her Seed, He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel.” (Genesis 3:15 Complete Apostles’ Bible)
[2] ““And this is the priest’s right from the people, from those who bring an offering, whether it is bull or sheep: they shall give to the priest the shoulder, and the two cheeks, and the stomach;” (Deuteronomy 18:3 The Scriptures 1998+)
[3] See Chambers Twentieth Century Dictionary for the word ‘begat’.
[4] Chambers Twentieth Century Dictionary: in being
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Manna was food (bread) from heaven which sustained the Israelites in the wilderness. The Bible emphasizes that God caused manna to appear at the right time and place to meet His people’s needs. Jesus assured the Jews that He, and not the wilderness food, was the true Bread from heaven that conferred eternal life on those who partook of it (John 6:30-58). - The Bread and the Wine are Better Than the Manna and the Water (thekingspresence.wordpress.com)
The manna was provided by God straight from heaven. Likewise, the water came out of the rock that followed the Israelites in the wilderness. Both were God’s provision for the Israelites and shadows of Christ. - John 6 (mybiblereadingplan.wordpress.com)
This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world.
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This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world.
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Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat. Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven. For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world. Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread. And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not. All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. - Soaked (refusingtotiptoe.com)
Coveting the nourishment of life from the Bread of Heaven. Satiated by the Manna. Permeating His existence. - What About Our Spiritual Life (verticalviewer.wordpress.com)
- This Week’s Torah Portion – Bereishit (In The Beginning) (terri0729.wordpress.com)
The Hebrew for bread of life is ‘lechem chayim.’ Yeshua was even born in
the house of bread (Beit lechem) usually called Beth-lehem in English.
This special braided bread called challah is eaten on the Sabbath
(Shabbat) and holidays. To commemorate the double portion of manna
that fell the day before the Sabbath in the wilderness, traditionally, two
loaves are on the Shabbat table.When we begin to understand Yeshua (Jesus) in His Hebraic, Jewish
cultural and Hebrew linguistic context, we not only understand the
Brit Chadashah (New Testament) more fully, but we are better equipped to
share the Word of God.
Jesus begotten Son of God #8 Found Divinely Created not Incarnated
The Anointed begotten Son of God
17. To be found
In case people would read their scrolls handed over by their forefathers they could learn from the Torah and the Prophets who God was and what He was going to provide and even which signs could be noticed to know that the time had arrived.
Several people claimed to be the saviour, and in history there have been many who had been called Jeshua or Iessou or Jesus, even today we do find people called Jesus or Chésu.
When the angel appeared before the virgin Miryam/Miriam, she Mary/Maria had a very reasonable objection that she was as yet unmarried and therefore would not have had intercourse. Gabriel declared, “holy spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you, and for that reason indeed (dio kai) the holy child to be begotten will be called Son of God” (Luke 1:35). As the angels says it was a son of God who would become begotten, it is to say would become in existence or would be born.
“In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin’s name was Mary. The angel went to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favoured! The Lord is with you.” Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. But the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, you have found favour with God. You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over the house of Jacob for ever; his kingdom will never end.” “How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?” The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called {Or So the child to be born will be called holy,} the Son of God.” (Luke 1:26-35 NIV)
18. Divinely created
The Son of God of Gabriel’s announcement is none other than a divinely created Son of God, coming into existence — begotten — as Son in his mother’s womb. All other claimants to divine Sonship and Messiahship may safely be discounted. A “Son of God” who is the natural son of Joseph could not, on the evidence of Gabriel, be the Messiah. Such a person would not answer to the Son who is son on the basis of a unique divine intervention in the biological chain. Equally false to Gabriel’s definition of the Son of God would be a son who pre-existed his conception. Such a son could not possibly correspond to the Messiah presented by Gabriel, one whose existence is predicated on a creative act in history on the part of the Father. And it was Gods spirit who took care that Mary was conceived. It was an action in that time.
Gabriel does not present a Son of God in transition from one state of existence to another. He announces the miraculous origin and beginning of the Messiah. Mary became with a child from the Spirit. The apostle Matthew lets us know that the child of whom he is writing got its “origin” [Gk. genesis] from the special force the Holy Spirit or Ruach haKodesh. So Jesus Christ, the Son of the Most High God came from Mary found to be pregnant or found to be with child from the Ruach haKodesh.
“here is how the birth of Yeshua the Messiah took place. when his mother Miryam was engaged to Yosef, before they were married, she was found to be pregnant from the \@Ruach haKodesh\@.” (Matthew 1:18 CJB)
“but while he was thinking about this, an angel of \@ADONAI\@ appeared to him in a dream and said, “Yosef, son of David, do not be afraid to take Miryam home with you as your wife; for what has been conceived in her is from the \@Ruach haKodesh\@.” (Matthew 1:20 CJB)
Mary her conception, by a singular grace and privilege granted by Almighty God, does not mean that she therefore would have been without sin. She was chosen By God, probably because she was very clean and a real worshipper of God. But that does not mean that she always has been free from original sin and from the start filled with the sanctifying grace. Miryam or Mary/Maria got a virginal conception and became a mother to Jesus but not as she herself who was the daughter of a human father and mother, traditionally known by the names of Saint Joachim and Saint Anne in Roman Catholicism, Jesus coming directly from the Father, the Most High in heaven.
19. No Incarnation
The later concept of the Incarnation of a pre-existing “eternal Son” cannot possibly be forced into the mould revealed by Gabriel. A pre-existent Person who decides to become a man reduces himself, shrinks himself, in order to adopt the form of a human embryo. But such a Person is not conceived or begotten in the womb of a woman. He merely passes through that womb, adopting a new form of existence.
Some think God is a being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions, but the Bible is clearly saying that God is a Spirit and not a human being. And a spirit has no flesh and bones, while Jesus for example has such flesh and bones.
“saying, “The Master was truly raised, and has appeared to Shim’on!” And they related what took place on the way, and how He was recognised by them in the breaking of the bread. And as they were saying this, יהושע Himself stood in the midst of them, and said to them, “Peace to you.” And being startled and frightened, they thought they had seen a spirit. And He said to them, “Why are you troubled? And why do doubts arise in your hearts? “See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself. Handle Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have.” And saying this, He showed them His hands and His feet.” (Luke 24:34-40 The Scriptures 1998+)
““But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father also does seek such to worship Him. “Elohim is Spirit, and those who worship Him need to worship in spirit and truth.” “ (John 4:23-24 The Scriptures 1998+)
God is a Spirit – Not only remote from the body, and all the properties of it, invisible to men, but likewise full of all spiritual perfections, mighty, powerful, and influential, having all the wisdom, love, and holiness.
God has not implanted himself in a human being. Perhaps you could say He did bring over a spark of this spirit, or immortal divinity, in a foetus through its mother. As God had created the first man he now could bring in to the woman Many elements which would bring into live a new human being, a second Adam, created as a fleshly likeness of his Creator, who is a spirit being, but that still would not make that Adam the same as its Creator. Nor would be any conceived child the same as his or her father or mother.
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Preexistence in the Divine purpose and Trinity
Human beings in Hebrew thought do not exist consciously before they are born. In the Holy Scriptures we do also find no preexistence of souls. The notion that Jesus was really alive and conscious before his birth in Bethlehem is also a very unJewish idea.
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Joh. 1:1> “… en het woord was god.”
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15. A time in the future
Several prophesies were given in the Old Testament. A prophesy is something which is still going to happen. It does not about something what had happened in the past. It concerns the future. Therefore all the things we get to know about the Saviour Christ Jesus, as in Isaiah 1-36 gives us a picture of a person who was not born at that time yet and did not exist yet. We are given a compendium of spiritual information about present conditions and things as they will be when the Messiah returns in power and glory to implement the task for which he was chosen in God’s Grand Design. In Scriptures we are told that the Messiah will take charge of world affairs in a government which will successfully restrain the insane destruction of people and property which continues to characterize the rule of the “god of this age.”
Isaiah does not speak about his time, but about a time to come and a person still to come. Though when that person shall come into existence not at once shall there be the recognition of him and a position of him where he should be placed. He shall come a first time and then he shall return to bring the whole earth at rest and quiet and offering the people who believe in the Name of God a new world.
“And it shall be, in the day יהוה gives you rest from your sorrow, and from your trouble and the hard service in which you were made to serve, that you shall take up this proverb against the sovereign of Baḇel, and say, “How the oppressor has ceased, the gold-gatherer ceased! “יהוה has broken the staff of the wrong, the sceptre of the rulers, he who smote the people in wrath with ceaseless blows, he who ruled the gentiles in displeasure, is persecuted and no one restrains. “All the earth is at rest and at peace, they shall break forth into singing. “Even the cypress trees rejoice over you, and the cedars of Leḇanon, saying, ‘Since you were cut down, no woodcutter has come up against us.’” (Isaiah 14:3-8 The Scriptures 1998+)
““But this is how Elohim has filled what He had announced beforehand through the mouth of all the prophets, that His Messiah was to suffer. “Repent therefore and turn back, for the blotting out of your sins, in order that times of refreshing might come from the presence of the Master, and that He sends יהושע Messiah, pre-appointed for you, whom heaven needs to receive until the times of restoration of all matters, of which Elohim spoke through the mouth of all His set-apart prophets since of old. “For Mosheh truly said to the fathers, ‘יהוה your Elohim shall raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brothers. Him you shall hear according to all matters, whatever He says to you. ‘And it shall be that every being who does not hear that Prophet1 shall be utterly destroyed from among the people.’ {Footnote: 1Deut. 18:18-20.}” (Acts 3:18-23 The Scriptures 1998+)
16. The one who would got begotten
Jesus the Christ is also the virginally conceived and begotten, unique, sinless and now resurrected, immortal Son of God.
“So all the generations from Aḇraham to Dawiḏ were fourteen generations, and from Dawiḏ until the exile to Baḇel were fourteen generations, and from the exile to Baḇel until the Messiah were fourteen generations. But the birth of יהושע Messiah was as follows: After His mother Miryam was engaged to Yosĕph, before they came together, she was found to be pregnant from the Set-apart Spirit. And Yosĕph her husband, being righteous, and not wishing to make a show of her, had in mind to put her away secretly. But while he thought about this, see, a messenger of יהוה appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Yosĕph, son of Dawiḏ, do not be afraid to take Miryam as your wife, for that which is in her was brought forth from the Set-apart Spirit. “And she shall give birth to a Son, and you shall call His Name יהושע for He shall save1 His people from their sins.” {Footnote: 1This is the precise meaning of the Heḇrew of His Name.} And all this came to be in order to fill what was spoken by יהוה through the prophet, saying, “See, a maiden shall conceive, and she shall give birth to a Son, and they shall call His Name Immanu’ĕl,” which translated, means, “Ěl with us.” “ (Matthew 1:17-23 The Scriptures 1998+)
“And in the sixth month the messenger Gaḇri’ĕl was sent by Elohim to a city of Galil named Natsareth, to a maiden engaged to a man whose name was Yosĕph, of the house of Dawiḏ. And the maiden’s name was Miryam. And the messenger, coming to her, said, “Greetings, favoured one, the Master is with you. Blessed are you among women!” But she was greatly disturbed at his word, and wondered what kind of greeting this was. And the messenger said to her, “Do not be afraid, Miryam, for you have found favour with Elohim. “And see, you shall conceive in your womb, and shall give birth to a Son, and call His Name יהושע.{1 Footnote: 1Mt. 1:21.} “He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Most High. And יהוה Elohim shall give Him the throne of His father Dawiḏ. “And He shall reign over the house of Ya’aqoḇ forever, and there shall be no end to His reign.”1 {Footnote: 1Verses 32 and 33 confirm the prophecies Ps. 2, Ps. 89:14-34, Isa. 9:7, Isa. 16:5, Jer. 23:3-6, Jer. 30:9, Ezek. 37:24, Dan. 2:44, Dan. 7:18-27, Mic. 5:2-4, Acts 1:6-7, Rev. 11:15.} And Miryam said to the messenger, “How shall this be, since I do not know a man?” And the messenger answering, said to her, “The Set-apart Spirit shall come upon you, and the power of the Most High shall overshadow you. And for that reason the Set-apart One born of you shall be called: Son of Elohim. “And see, Elisheḇa your relative, she has also conceived a son in her old age. And this is now the sixth month to her who was called barren, because with Elohim no matter shall be impossible.” And Miryam said, “See the female servant of יהוה! Let it be to me according to your word.” And the messenger went away from her.” (Luke 1:26-38 The Scriptures 1998+)
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13. Son of Adam and Abraham
He would be a new Adam and also a son of Abraham – A Jew born, and as such has a right to the first offer of salvation. Salvation came to him in the sense that his heart was turned from sin and selfishness toward God and righteousness. Jesus had faith in Abraham and as such could be counted as one of his children.
“And יהושע said to him, “Today deliverance has come to this house – since he also is a son of Aḇraham. “For the Son of Aḏam has come to seek and to save what was lost.” And as they were hearing this, He spoke another parable, because He was near Yerushalayim and they thought the reign of Elohim was about to be manifested straightaway. He therefore said, “A certain nobleman went to a distant country to receive for himself a reign and to return.” (Luke 19:9-12 The Scriptures 1998+)
For us this may be an assurance that all who have the faith of Abraham may be counted as children of Abraham as disciples of Jesus.
When the apostle Matthew gives us the family tree we clearly can see the connection of Jeshua/Jesus with Adam, Abraham and David. In his 1st chapter he provides basic information about the origin of Jesus, genesis of Jesus. His birth certificate is certified and guaranteed in Scripture. For Matthew this is not just his birth, but his origin (genesis, with one “nee,” Greek letter n, in the best manuscripts). That same word genesis opens the entire New Testament — as giving us the genealogy of the Son of God (Matt. 1:1)[1].
14. The Anointed son of God
The people could look out to the one who was going to be the Son of the living God.
“And Shim’on Kĕpha answering, said, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living Elohim.” And יהושע answering, said to him, “Blessed are you, Shim’on Bar-Yonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father in the heavens.” (Matthew 16:16-17 The Scriptures 1998+)
Peter had received the vision we as Christians all should and can receive when we are willing to open up our mind to the Father of that promised anointed one. Jeshua or Jesus, as he is better known, is the Anointed One, the Messiah, whom God promised and provided for our salvation.
“Then Kĕpha, filled with the Set-apart Spirit, said to them, “Rulers of the people and elders of Yisra’ĕl: “If today we are called to account for a good deed towards a sick man, by whom he has been healed, let it be known to all of you, and to all the people of Yisra’ĕl, that in the Name of יהושע[2] Messiah of Natsareth, whom you impaled, whom Elohim raised from the dead, by Him this one stands before you, healthy. “This is ‘the stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.’ “And there is no deliverance in anyone else, for there is no other Name under the heaven given among men by which we need to be saved.” And seeing the boldness of Kĕpha and Yoḥanan, and perceiving that they were unlearned and ordinary men, they marvelled. And they recognised that they had been with יהושע.” (Acts 4:8-13 The Scriptures 1998+)
[1] “The book of the generation of Yahshua the Messiah, the son of David, the son of Abraham.” (Matthew 1:1 KJBPNV)
[2] Hebrew Yahushua or Yeshua = Jeshua, meaning ‘He shall save’ or ‘He who saves’
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“Messiah” is the Hebrew equivalent of the Greek word “Christos” or “Christ”.
Jesus did say he was the Messiah. He said he was Messiah to the Samaritan woman at the well at Sychar. John 4:25-26
Jesus acknowledged being the Christ, after Peter’s confession in Matthew 16:15-17
Luke 4:18-21 + Luke 4:28-29 + Matthew 26:63-68
Jesus never said he was God the son but he claimed to be the son of God in John 10:36
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Preceding article: Jesus begotten Son of God #5 Apsotle, High Priest and King
To be continued: A time in the future + The one who would got begotten
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John 8:56-59
Whether the action which happens “before” is future, present or past is determined by the following verb.
Christ has already explained the context in v.56 “Your father Abraham rejoiced that he would see my day. He saw it and was glad.” The seeing was in the past. But when was Christ’s day? Clearly it is future to Abraham: firstly 27-30AD, when Christ was preaching, culminating in his sacrifice, resurrection and ascension, but also secondly the “day” of Christ relates to the other “day of the Lord” verses in Christ’s teaching and elsewhere in the New and Old Testaments — the day when Christ will raise Abraham from the dead and Abraham will see Christ. - What are all the names of Jesus in the Bible?
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Starting with “Adam”, human beings are created. St Luke describes the newly created Adam as a son of God. However, the ‘first-begotten’ of God, in the context of Hebrews 1:6, means just what it says; that, as a man, Jesus was the first and only human being conceived of God, conceived in the womb “by the power of the Most High”. So as Jesus is not only human but is, thus, also divine, he clearly merits worship.+
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- Jehovah Jireh(jgmtheo.wordpress.com)Abraham was full of faith, believing God’s ability to keep His promises. If God asked Abraham to sacrifice Issac Abraham believed that, God could raise Isaac from the dead. Therefore, Abraham could bring his son back after worshipping God. Isaac was the “child of promise” to elderly parents (See Gen18:11) who were past the age of childbirth. Isaac came in a sense “even from the dead” and in figure or type, Abraham received him back now.
- The Priesthood of Melchizedek(briancoatney.com)The book of Hebrews leads the willing believer into the priesthood of Melchizedek, which seems strange since Melchizedek is only mentioned in Genesis, Psalm 110, and Hebrews. How could a few tiny obscure references define the priestly order of Jesus Christ and of His offspring, namely us?
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11. An Apostle and High Priest
From old people knew this promised one was going to be a special man. He would be fully man of God being thought by His Father, who was going to send him into the world to be the Apostle and High Priest of our confession.
Secular history tells us that the son of Simon Maccabee, John Hyrcanus I, was both king and priest. There are no other king/priest combinations recorded in the Bible. In the Scriptures, the man that comes closest to being thought of as both king and priest, is Joshua, the son of Jehozadak, the high priest. In Zechariah 6:12-13 reference is given to “the man whose name is the Branch” in verse 12. This refers to the coming Messiah, as Jeremiah 23:5.
“and shall speak to him, saying, ‘Thus said יהוה of hosts, saying, “See, the Man whose name is the Branch1! And from His place He shall branch out, and He shall build the Hĕḵal of יהוה. {Footnote 1See 3:8.}[1]“It is He who is going to build the Hĕḵal of יהוה. It is He who is going to bear the splendour. And He shall sit and rule on His throne, and shall be a priest on His throne, and the counsel of peace shall be between Them both,” ’ “(Zechariah 6:12-13 The Scriptures 1998+)“Therefore, set-apart brothers, partakers of the heavenly calling, closely consider the Emissary and High Priest of our confession, Messiah יהושע, who was trustworthy to Him who appointed Him, as also Mosheh in all His house. For this One has been deemed worthy of more esteem than Mosheh, as much as He who built the house enjoys more respect than the house. For every house is built by someone, but He who built all is Elohim. And Mosheh indeed was trustworthy in all His house as a servant, for a witness of what would be spoken later, but Messiah as a Son over His own house, whose house we are if we hold fast the boldness and the boasting of the expectation firm to the end. Therefore, as the Set-apart Spirit says, “Today, if you hear His voice, do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion, in the day of trial in the wilderness, where your fathers tried Me, proved Me, and saw My works forty years.“ (Hebrews 3:1-9 The Scriptures 1998+)
12. A Davidic King
People in the Old Times were promised a Davidic king whom God has raised up to restore and reign over the Kingdom of God.
“And the messenger said to her, “Do not be afraid, Miryam, for you have found favour with Elohim. “And see, you shall conceive in your womb, and shall give birth to a Son, and call His Name יהושע. (Mt. 1:21). “He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Most High. And יהוה Elohim shall give Him the throne of His father Dawiḏ. “And He shall reign over the house of Ya’aqoḇ forever, and there shall be no end to His reign.”(Verses 32 and 33 confirm the prophecies Ps. 2, Ps. 89:14-34, Isa. 9:7, Isa. 16:5, Jer. 23:3-6, Jer. 30:9, Ezek. 37:24, Dan. 2:44, Dan. 7:18-27, Mic. 5:2-4, Acts 1:6-7, Rev. 11:15.) And Miryam said to the messenger, “How shall this be, since I do not know a man?” And the messenger answering, said to her, “The Set-apart Spirit shall come upon you, and the power of the Most High shall overshadow you. And for that reason the Set-apart One born of you shall be called: Son of Elohim. “And see, Elisheḇa your relative, she has also conceived a son in her old age. And this is now the sixth month to her who was called barren,“ (Luke 1:30-36 The Scriptures 1998+)
“Philip found Nethanĕ’l and said to him, “We have found Him whom Mosheh wrote of in the Torah, and the prophets: יהושע of Natsareth – the son of Yosĕph.” And Nethanĕ’l said to him, “Is it possible for any good matter to come out of Natsareth?” Philip said to him, “Come and see.” יהושע saw Nethanĕ’l coming toward Him, and said of him, “See, truly a Yisra’ĕlite, in whom is no deceit!” Nethanĕ’l said to Him, “From where do You know me?” יהושע answered and said to him, “Before Philip called you, when you were under the fig tree, I saw you.” Nethanĕ’l answered and said to Him, “Rabbi, You are the Son of Elohim! You are the Sovereign of Yisra’ĕl!” יהושע answered and said to him, “Because I said to you, ‘I saw you under the fig tree,’ do you believe? Greater than that you shall see.” And He said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, from now on you shall see the heaven opened, and the messengers of Elohim ascending and descending upon the Son of Aḏam.” (John 1:45-51 The Scriptures 1998+)
“Men and brothers, this Scripture had to be filled which the Set-apart Spirit spoke before by the mouth of Dawiḏ concerning Yehuḏah, who became a guide to those who seized יהושע, because he was numbered with us and did receive his share in this service.” (Acts 1:16-17 The Scriptures 1998+)
[1] “‘Now listen, Yehoshua the high priest, you and your companions who sit before you, for they are men of symbol. For look, I am bringing forth My Servant – the Branch1. {Footnote: 1Or Sprout. See Isa. 4:2, Isa. 11:1, Jer. 23:5, Jer. 33:15, Zech. 6:12.} “ (Zechariah 3:8 The Scriptures 1998+)
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If we claim to follow Christ we shall be sure that our Lord Jesus Christ, on his return, is to be king over the earth:
The Angel Gabriel:
He will be great, and he will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give him the throne of his father David. And he will reign over the house of Jacob for ever, and of his kingdom there will be no end.
(Luke 1:32,33)
Jesus:
Do not swear … by Jerusalem for it is the city of the Great King
(Matthew 5:34,35)
Jeremiah:
Behold, the days are coming, saith the LORD, that I will raise to David a Branch of righteousness; a King shall reign and prosper, and execute judgment and righteousness in the earth. In his days Judah will be saved, and Israel will dwell safely; now this is his name by which he will be called: THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
(Jeremiah 23:5,6)
Zechariah:
And in that day his feet will stand on the mount of Olives … And the Lord shall be king over all the earth. In that day it shall be – “The LORD is one”, and his name one.
(Zechariah 14:4,9)
Paul:
Because (God) has appointed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by the man whom he has ordained . He has given assurance of this to all, by raising him from the dead. (Acts 17:31)
Only by the righteous reign of Jesus over the whole earth will it be possible for God to fill the whole earth with His glory.
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List of Quotations from the Old Testament in Hebrews by Peter Forbes
| 1:5 | thou art my son this day have I begotten thee | Psalm 2:7 |
| 1:5 | I will be to him a father and he shall be to me a son | 2 Samuel 7:14 |
| 1:6 | firstbegotten | Psalm 89:27 |
| 1:6 | and let all the angels of god worship him | Psalm 97:7 |
| 1:7 | Who maketh his angels spirits and his ministers a flame of fire | Psalm 104:4 |
| 1:8 | Thy throne O God is for ever and ever; a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou has loved righteousness and hated iniquity; therefore God even thy God hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows | Psalm 45:5 – 6 |
| 1:10 | thou Lord in the beginning has laid the foundation of the earth and the heavens are the works of thy hands; They shall perish but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; and as a vesture shalt thou fold them up and they shall be changed but thou art the same and thy years shall not fail | Psalm 102:25 |
| 1:13 | sit on my right until I make thine enemies thy footstool | Psalm 110:1 |
| 1:14 | ministering spirits | Psalm 104:4 |
| 2:6 | what is man that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man that thou visitest him? Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownest him with glory and honour and set him over the works of thy hands. Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet | Psalm 8:4 |
| 2:8 | put all things in subjection under him | Psalm 8:6 |
| 2:9 | lower than the angels | Psalm 8:5 |
| 2:9 | crowned with glory and honour | Psalm 8:5 |
| 2:10 | all things | Psalm 8:6 |
| 2:11 | brethren | Psalm 22:22 |
| 2:12 | I will declare thy name unto my brethren in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee | Psalm 22:22 |
| 2:13 | I will put my trust in thee | Psalm 78:28 |
| 2:13 | behold I and the children which God hath given me | Isaiah 8:18 |
| 2:16 | seed of Abraham | Isaiah 41:8 |
| 3:2 | appointed him | 1 Samuel 12:6 |
| 3:5 | servant | Exodus 14:31 |
| 3:6 | son | Psalm 2:7 |
| 4:1 | promise | Numbers 14:34 |
| 5:6 | thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec | Psalm 110:4 |
| 5:9 | eternal salvation | Isaiah 45:11 |
| 5:10 | after the order of Melchisedec | Psalm 110:4 |
| 6:16 | an oath for confirmation end | Exodus 22:11 |
| 6:19 | within the vail | Leviticus 16:15 |
| 6:19 | priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec | Psalm 110:4 |
| 7:1 | Melchisedec king of Salem | Genesis 14:18 |
| 7:1 | priest of the most high God | Genesis 14:18 |
| 7:1 | returning from the slaughter of the kings | Genesis 14:17 |
| 7:1 | blessed him | Genesis 14:19 |
| 7:2 | Abraham gave the tenth part of all | Genesis 14:20 |
| 7:2 | king of Salem | Genesis 14:18 |
| 7:2 | king of righteousness | Genesis 14:18 |
| 7:2 | king of peace | Genesis 14:18 |
| 7:4 | Abraham gave the tenth part of all | Genesis 14:20 |
| 7:5 | sons of Levi | Numbers 18:21 |
| 7:10 | Melchisedec | Genesis 14:18 |
| 7:11 | after the order of Melchisedec | Psalm 110:4 |
| 7:14 | lord | Psalm 110:1 |
| 7:14 | sprang | Isaiah 11:1 |
| 7:14 | out of Judah | Genesis 49:11 |
| 7:15 | after the [similitude] of Melchisedec | Psalm 110:4 |
| 7:17 | thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec | Psalm 110:4 |
| 7:21 | the Lord sware and will not repent Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec | Psalm 110:4 |
| 8:1 | Is set on the right hand of God | Psalm 110:1 |
| 8:2 | minister of the sanctuary | Numbers 18:2 |
| 8:5 | that thou make all things according to the pattern shown thee in the mount | Exodus 25:40 |
| 8:6 | mediator | Deuteronomy 5:5 |
| 8:8 | behold the days come saith the Lord when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah. Not according to the covenant I made with their fathers when I took them by the hand and led them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant and I regarded them not saith the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days saith the Lord. I will put my laws into their mind and write them in their hearts; and I will be to them a God and they shall be to me a people and they shall not teach every man his neighbour and every man his brother saying Know the Lord : for all shall know me from the least to the greatest for I will be merciful to their unrighteousness and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more | Jeremiah 31:31 |
| 8:13 | new covenant | Jeremiah 31:31 |
| 8:13 | decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away | Isaiah 51:6 |
| 9:2 | tabernacle made | Exodus 26:1 |
| 10:10 | offering of the body | Psalm 40:6 |
| 10:11 | daily ministering and offering | Numbers 28:3 |
| 10:12 | sat down on the right hand of God | Psalm 110:1 |
| 10:13 | till his enemies be made his footstool | Psalm 110:1 |
| 10:16 | this is the covenant that I will make with them after those days saith the Lord I will put my laws into their hearts and in their minds will I write them and their sins and iniquities will I remember no more | Jeremiah 31:33 |
| 10:18 | offering for sin | Isaiah 53:10 |
| 10:19 | holiest | Exodus 26:33 |
| 10:20 | through the vail | Leviticus 16:15 |
| 10:21 | high priest over the house of God | Zechariah 6:13 |
| 10:22 | sprinkled and bodies washed with pure water | Numbers 19:19 |
| 11:17 | only [begotten] son | Genesis 22:2 |
| 11:18 | In Isaac shall thy seed be called | Genesis 21:12 |
| 12:24 | mediator | Deuteronomy 5:5 |
| 12:24 | new covenant | Jeremiah 31:31 |
| 12:24 | blood of sprinkling | Leviticus 16:19 |
| 13:11 | high priest | Leviticus 16:11 |
| 13:15 | sacrifice of praise | Leviticus 7:12 |
| 13:15 | the fruit of our lips | Hosea 14:2 |
| 13:20 | shepherd of the sheep | Isaiah 63:11 |
| 13:20 | blood | Zechariah 9:11 |
| 13:20 | everlasting covenant | 2 Samuel 23:5 |
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Jesus, however, was not a Levite but from the tribe ofJudahand the line of David. Yet he is called a priest according to the order of Melchizedek. Melchizedek appeared to Abraham in Genesis after Abraham defeated the coalition of kings that had captured Sodom and therefore his nephewLot. No mention is made of Melchizedek having a mother or father, or a genealogy. The aura of his priesthood is heavenly and not of this world, thus, not manmade or even derived by natural birth – not even a divinely appointed family of natural birth. The point is that Jesus’ priesthood will not be of this world either. - Jesus has many roles in our lives King High Priest Testator Surety Mediator Intercessor. (christadelphian.org)
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Christ now took up the mantle of John’s great work as it is recorded in Isaiah 40:10-11. “His work is before Him He shall feed His flock like a shepherd: He shall gather the lambs with His arm and carry them is His bosom and He shall gently lead those who are with young”. Did you notice the word “lead” in that verse? Christ does not drive us or force us to His kingdom. Paul explains this in Romans 2:4. “It is the goodness of God that leadeth us to repentance ” cp Psalm 100. - Jesus in the NT :: Matthew (thepauls.wordpress.com)
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Jesus begotten Son of God #4 Promised Prophet and Saviour
The Anointed begotten Son of God
10. Promised Prophet and Saviour
There are many references in the Old Testament to Jesus in the types and in the prophecies of the messiah.
In the Old Testament the people were told that the Messiah would be both a great king who would reign forever and would suffer and die. This suggests two very different aspects of his role, and may indicate two comings. For example, Isaiah 52:13-14describes both the glory and the suffering of Jesus:“See, My Servant shall work wisely, He shall be exalted and lifted up and very high. As many were astonished at You – so the disfigurement beyond any man’s and His form beyond the sons of men – He shall likewise startle many nations. Sovereigns shut their mouths at Him, for what had not been recounted to them they shall see, and what they had not heard they shall understand.” (Isaiah 52:13-15 The Scriptures 1998+)
In the promised Saviour who was born some 2015 years ago the World could find the by far greater mashiach than others bearing this title before him. In the Christ the offices of prophet, priest and king are combined into one great office. Jesus was anointed by God above all his predecessors.
“You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness. Because of this, Elohim, Your Elohim, has anointed You with the oil of gladness more than Your companions.” (Hebrews 1:9 The Scriptures 1998+)
This son of Miryam/Miriam or commonly called today Mary/Maria and Joseph from the tribe of David was the great Israelite prophet referred to by Mosheh/Moshe/Moses and like Moses, but more modest and much more a Master Teacher, the Rabbi of Rabbis.
““יהוה your Elohim shall raise up for you a Prophet like me from your midst, from your brothers. Listen to Him,” (Deuteronomy 18:15 The Scriptures 1998+)
“‘I shall raise up for them a Prophet like you out of the midst of their brothers. And I shall put My Words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him. ‘And it shall be, the man who does not listen to My Words which He speaks in My Name, I require it of him. ‘But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My Name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other mighty ones, even that prophet shall die.’ “And when you say in your heart, ‘How do we know the word which יהוה has not spoken?’ – when the prophet speaks in the Name of יהוה and the word is not, or comes not, that is the word which יהוה has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.” (Deuteronomy 18:18-22 The Scriptures 1998+)
“Then the men, having seen the sign that יהושע did, said, “This is truly the Prophet who is coming to the world.” Then יהושע, knowing that they were about to come and seize Him, that they might make Him sovereign, withdrew again to the mountain, alone by Himself.” (John 6:14-15 The Scriptures 1998+)
Though a Saviour and King there would be Seventy weeks[1] decreed about the people and their holy city; to finish the transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal both vision and prophet, and to anoint a most holy place.
““Seventy weeks are decreed for your people and for your set-apart city, to put an end to the transgression, and to seal up sins, and to cover crookedness, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up vision and prophet, and to anoint the Most Set-apart. “Know, then, and understand: from the going forth of the command to restore and build Yerushalayim until Messiah the Prince is seven weeks and sixty-two weeks. It shall be built again, with streets and a trench, but in times of affliction. “And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off and have naught. And the people of a coming prince shall destroy the city and the set-apart place. And the end of it is with a flood. And wastes are decreed, and fighting until the end. “And he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week. And in the middle of the week he shall put an end to slaughtering and meal offering. And on the wing of abominations he shall lay waste, even until the complete end and that which is decreed is poured out on the one who lays waste1.” {Footnote: 1Mt. 24:15.} “ (Daniel 9:24-27 The Scriptures 1998+)[2]
“But יהוה was pleased to crush Him, He laid sickness on Him, that when He made Himself an offering for guilt, He would see a seed, He would prolong His days and the pleasure of יהוה prosper in His hand.” (Isaiah 53:10 The Scriptures 1998+)
We do find in Jesus a similar or not to say the same person as the one spoken of: the “anointed one” (Messiah) coming, being cut off, presenting himself as the ultimate offer, giving redemption; and later overthrowing the enemies of God. Jesus is the atoning sacrifice for our sins and not for ours only, but for those of the whole world besides.
In the Old Testament writing here appear to be two “comings” described, and in the New Testament we do find them confirmed by Jesus telling is that he shall come back.
“But now, apart from the Torah, a righteousness of Elohim has been revealed, being witnessed by the Torah and the Prophets, and the righteousness of Elohim is through belief in יהושע Messiah to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the esteem of Elohim, being declared right, without paying, by His favour through the redemption which is in Messiah יהושע, whom Elohim set forth as an atonement, through belief in His blood, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His tolerance Elohim had passed over the sins that had taken place before, to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He is righteous and declares righteous the one who has belief in יהושע.” (Romans 3:21-26 The Scriptures 1998+)
“My little children, I write this to you, so that you do not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Intercessor with the Father, יהושע Messiah, a righteous One. And He Himself is an atoning offering for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the entire world. “ (1 John 2:1-2 The Scriptures 1998+)
“By this the love of Elohim was manifested in us, that Elohim has sent His only brought-forth Son into the world, in order that we might live through Him. In this is love, not that we loved Elohim, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be an atoning offering for our sins.” (1 John 4:9-10 The Scriptures 1998+)
““And then the sign of the Son of Aḏam shall appear in the heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth shall mourn, and they shall see the Son of Aḏam coming on the clouds of the heaven with power and much esteem.” (Matthew 24:30 The Scriptures 1998+)
When it is the son of Adam coming back to the World that means that person was born after Adam.
““And as the days of Noaḥ, so also shall the coming of the Son of Aḏam be. “For as they were in the days before the flood, eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noaḥ entered into the ark, and they did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also shall the coming of the Son of Aḏam be.” (Matthew 24:37-39 The Scriptures 1998+)
Once more the Bible, the infallible Word of God, tells us that it is a son of men[3] coming to the earth and not God. And it shall be for that man, Jesus that all people shall have to show their (real) face. Ii is the Messiah Jeshua/Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead when he appears and establishes his kingdom.
““Because of this, be ready too, for the Son of Aḏam is coming at an hour when you do not expect Him.” (Matthew 24:44 The Scriptures 1998+)
““Watch then at all times, and pray that you be counted worthy to escape all this about to take place, and to stand before the Son of Aḏam.” “ (Luke 21:36 The Scriptures 1998+)
“In the sight of Elohim and the Master יהושע Messiah, who shall judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His reign, I earnestly charge you: “ “ (2 Timothy 4:1 The Scriptures 1998+)
[1] Seventy years captivity for the Jews (Jeremiah 29) Instead of seventy years, there are to seventy weeks (literally seventy “sevens”) between the restoration of Jerusalem and its ultimate desolation. At towards the end of that period the Messiah will be anointed (v25), will be “cut off, but not for himself” (v26) and so “make reconciliation for iniquity” (V24). This should remind us of Jesus.
[2] The text of Daniel, particularly these last verses, is difficult and so translations do vary regarding the wording (compare ESV and NKJV). However we can work break down the time periods. The period begins with the “command to restore Jerusalem”.
There were several edicts about the Jews returning to Jerusalem but the relevant one is the command Artaxerxes that allowed Nehemiah to return to Jerusalem to rebuild the walls (Nehemiah 2:5-9; cf. “the wall” Daniel 9:25). This occurred around 447/457 BCE. There are two periods until the anointing of the Messiah, seven “sevens” and sixty-two “sevens”. That is 483 years in total. Now we have to do a little bit of recalculating. This prophecy refers to 483 years of 360 days, whereas our calendars use years of 365 days. If we do the calculation (483 x 360 / 365), we arrive at a total of 476 years. And if we count forward from 447 BCE, remembering there is no year 0, we arrive at around 30 CE, the beginning of Jesus’ ministry. Around three years later Jesus was crucified, or “cut off”, in the middle of the “week” to “bring an end to sacrifice and offering” (v27).
When we take that Artaxerxes Longimanus gave Ezra permission to go to Jerusalem in 457 BC. Seven weeks equates to 49 years (on the day-for-a-year principle). And so, the restoration of Jerusalem by Ezra and Nehemiah would take 49 years, which it did.
That would bring the date to 408 BCE. Sixty-two weeks (ESV) equates to 434 years. 434 years from 408 BCE would be 74 CE. Let’s take into account that most scholars fix the date of Jesus’ birth at 4 BCE. And so, the date would be 70 CE. This would be the time that the prince (Titus) who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary (ESV).
We should note that there are slight disagreements about the dating of these events, by a year or two. But in any case it is a remarkable “coincidence” that this period fits. In this Daniel 9 confirms that Jesus was the Messiah.
[3] “therefore you too must always be ready, for the son of man will come when you are not expecting him.” (Matthew 24:44 CJB)
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To be continued
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Note: About the Seventy Weeks you can find some more information in our reply to the preceding article.
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- Friday, December 2, 2011 @ Malachi (phyllisbenigas.wordpress.com)
In the first three chapters, Malachi had chastised the Israelites for their sins in marrying pagans, robbing God of the tithe and unfaithfulness to the family, but now he came with a message of hope for the future. Jesus, the Sun of Righteousness, was coming to bring healing to their sick hearts, and the freedom they would experience would send their hearts leaping for joy. The sun can be a destructive fire or a warm glow to our lives, but those who would turn to God would feel the cleansing, the warmth from the Son of righteousness and complete wholeness. There would be nothing like it! - Is Jesus a false prophet? (bethemunah.wordpress.com)
In a Rabbinic Jewish commentary is the following concerning a passage in Daniel: “Rashi and Rambam take this as an allusion to the Nazarene and his disciples. ‘For is there a greater stumbling block than this? All the prophets foretold that the Messiah would redeem the Jews, help them, gather in the exiles and support their observance of the commandments. But he caused Jewry to be put to the sword, to be scattered and to be degraded; he tampered with the Torah and it’s laws; and he misled most of the world to serve something other then God.’” (Hil. Melachim 11:4)
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If that is the Jesus the church is following, I am following a different Jesus…actually I prefer to call him by the name that his disciples called him…Yeshua (God is salvation). Yes he is from Nazareth….but according to Matt 5:17-19, “Do not think that I came to abolish the Torah or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Torah until all is accomplished. Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” Yeshua did not come to abolish the Torah. He came to show us how to live it….the Messiah is looked upon as the greatest Torah teacher of all time. He is the Word made flesh…he is the living Torah.
+> But he is not God as the writer of the article indicates. Having become the fulfilment of something does not mean the person has become that thing (the Word) or that person (a god =/= the God) - The Scriptures – Moved by the Spirit (part two – the Words) (mindrenewers.com)
(our remark:) Jesus taken in by the Holy Spirit did not come to be that Power of God. Having received the Spirit does not make him or anybody else who received the Spirit God. (editor)
“The Holy Spirit “moved” the human authors of Scripture, bearing them or carrying them along in the giving of the Scriptures, called “immediate inspiration” or “inscripturation” (definitions). The result is that the Bible is God’s Book. It is not a human creation, it came from God and not man. It has a true meaning, and that meaning is the one God intended, because the Holy Spirit carried the authors to His intended destination. The Scriptures say what God intended them to say.”
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The Spirit’s moving in the giving of the Scriptures extended to the very words which were written. Every word was God’s. Exodus 31:18 tells us that God wrote the words of the Ten Commandments on the tables of stone, though that is obviously a special case — most of the Scriptures weren’t written by the finger of God on stone tablets.In Deuteronomy 18:18 God said He would ”put My words” in the mouth of the prophets. Someone could read this as figurative language meaning, “I gave them a message.” - Jesus & the Sinner II (lifeofafemalebiblewarrior.wordpress.com)
Until we become a new creature in Christ, our sin nature remains what it once was and there is little motivation to change it
Our remark: As Jesus was under his Father we do have to become under Christ and get to become like him. By doing so we do not get like God, though we have elements which look like God, they never shall make us to be God, nor they did with Christ Jesus. - Lesson 10. The Two Covenants (sabbathschoolcomments.com)
The famous New Covenant text is found in Jeremiah 31. In verses 33 and 34 God promises to write his law on our hearts and to forgive our sins. Here we see the two-fold provision of grace, both forgiving and enabling — the same provision that Abraham was party to when his faith “was accounted to him for righteousness” (Romans 4:3). The same covenant was first made to Adam and Eve in the promise that the Seed would come and crush the serpent’s head. Then why is it called the “New” Covenant if it existed before Sinai? Because, although confirmed by the promise of God (Hebrews 6:13-18) long before Moses, it was not ratified until the death of Christ. - Arise from your sleep, open your blinded eyes and see, LIVE in HIM! (bereans4yhwh.wordpress.com)
+ Praising the Spirit of Messiah (bereans4yhwh.wordpress.com)
the Spirit of Messiah, the Comforter, the Ruach Hakodesh, the Spirit of Set-apartness!
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How twisted people have become due to their unwillingness to go to the Torah –Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. Unwillingness to go to Torah is on equal with unwillingness to go to The Almighty One. For they are the same, and Messiah spoke all the Words of that same Torah. - Alleged Sabbath-Breaking Of Yeshua, Did Yeshua Plan A New Organization & The Law In The Tanakh Vs Messianic Scriptures (According To The Jewish Encyclopedia And The Scriptures Explanatory Notes) (paradoxparables.justparadox.com)
“It is difficult to decide the question whether Jesus contemplated a permanent organization to carry out his ideals. The whole tendency of his work was against the very idea of organization. His practical acceptance of the Law would seem to imply an absence of any rival mode of life; and his evident belief in an almost immediate reconstruction of the whole social and religious order would tend to prevent any formal arrangements for a new religious organization. The opposition between his followers and the “world,” or settled and organized conditions of society, would also seem to imply that those who were to work in his spirit could not make another “world” of their own with the same tendency to conventionality and spiritual red tape. On the whole, it may be said that he did not make general plans, but dealt with each spiritual problem as it arose. - Scripture and the Word of God (frted.wordpress.com)
When any of the authors of the New Testament mention the Scriptures, they are referring to what Christians today think of as “the Old Testament.” That was the only Scripture for the Christians of the New Testament times. The New Testament as a collection of writings did not exist during the time of the apostles The early Christians saw their Scriptures because they revealed Christ to the world. The centrality of the Torah and the Temple had been replaced by the Incarnate Messiah as the sign of God’s presence with His people. - Jesus begotten Son of God #3 Messiah or Anointed one (christadelphians.wordpress.com)









